Blad Focus question

[fredjeang]

Hi,

I wonder if it's possible to dowload the software Focus permanently even if not buying but renting backs.
I'd like to try Hasselblad, so far I've used Phase and C1. I don't own a back but just rent them when needed.

Thank you.

[fredjeang]

You're right, sorry. I wrote Focus, thinking spanish, like fotografía.

Thanks Keith

[Rob C]

You're right. I wrote Focus, thinking spanish, like fotografía.

Thanks Keith

Fred, you think that's confusing? What about photographe and photographie?

It confused me for years when I started reading French PHOTO!

Now that I don't get confused with it anymore, I don't buy magazines. C'est la vie.

;-)

Rob C

[fredjeang]

Haaa...the french mute "e".

Well, I've just downloaded it and installed, I'm extremely pleased by what I'm seeing so far and by the img3 sample provided by the company.

[JV]

and at least it does not run like a dog...
on my 3-years old 2GB iMAc Capture One runs painfully slow, Phocus runs happily without any speed issues

[Doug Peterson]

and at least it does not run like a dog...
on my 3-years old 2GB iMAc Capture One runs painfully slow, Phocus runs happily without any speed issues

I'm betting we could find a source of slowness if you're finding that to be the case. Not the beefiest computer out there but should be enough for most uses of Capture One.

[fredjeang]

I found both softwares pretty much the same to be honest in terms of speed. No issue with Phocus, no issue with C1.
Also, I quite felt immediatly "at home" with both, wich is not the case for my personal taste with lightroom that I never ended to feel comfortable with.

JV, you might have something weired with C1. Wich version are you runnin?
Have you desinstalled previous C1 versions? 

[david o]

I'm betting we could find a source of slowness if you're finding that to be the case. Not the beefiest computer out there but should be enough for most uses of Capture One.

The iMac would work fine but 2gig may not be enough

[JV]

JV, you might have something weired with C1. Wich version are you runnin?
Have you desinstalled previous C1 versions? 

I am running the latest and greatest.  I never deinstalled previous versions.  With each new version I download the Mac disk image and when copying to the Applications folder I say I want to overwrite.  You are probably right though that there might be something wrong with my installation because it runs noticeably faster on my MacBook Pro (also 2GB).

[fredjeang]

Well, I don't know if Doug or a Capture specialist will comment but it seems that desinstalling previous versions is recommended. Don't ask me the oscur reason, I have no idea.
I had something weired when first installed the latest, some unexpected crashes, then I read that desinstalling previous version could stabilized it, I did it and since that it's rock solid, fast and obedient.
I forgot to mention, maybe it has importance: I run it on a window 7 64 bit platform.

Another wired point (not weired but commercial I guess) is that Phocus seems to ignore the DNG (correct me if I'm wrong on that), like C1. In fact C1 don't ignore the DNG, it magicmushrooms them up.
So no chance to read a Leica S2 or Pentax 645D dng file with those softwares. Or the so call "official" DNG because it seems that everybody has its own DNG (standard...??)

Also, Phocus has 2 modes to open, a light and a full one. very good! This has been asked before in the Capture wishes by some users, me included, and I trully think Capture could copy the idea.

[JV]

I de-installed Capture One and re-installed.  Better. 
I noticed that I had Session Favorites that were no longer available.  Removed them.  Better again.
Still significantly slower than Phocus though.
Thank you!

[eronald]

Latest Phocus can open all sorts of Raw files, not only Hasselblad, albeit not with all abilities. 

On my 1 year old top of the line MacBook Pro, it is ... slow.

CS5 on the other hand seems to be finally nearing the state of a decent Raw converter.

Edmund

[gazwas]

I de-installed Capture One and re-installed.  Better. 
I noticed that I had Session Favorites that were no longer available.  Removed them.  Better again.
Still significantly slower than Phocus though.
Thank you!

Did you follow the procedure on Phase Ones website to uninstall C1?

There are a few files in your preferences folder and a couple of other files you need to manually deleted to get a full clean install or the new install will reference these old files.

[JV]

Did you follow the procedure on Phase Ones website to uninstall C1?

There are a few files in your preferences folder and a couple of other files you need to manually deleted to get a full clean install or the new install will reference these old files.

I probably did not.  Where exactly can I find that procedure?

[fredjeang]

If I understand well, the window's version of Phocus is not yet capable of reading third party raws but will be in a close future. All this seems a little confuse to me.

What I like about Phocus is its simplicity. We have to end in photoshop anyway for serious retouching so too much options inboard a devellopper is IMO not specially a good path.

[John R Smith]

What I like about Phocus is its simplicity. We have to end in photoshop anyway for serious retouching so too much options inboard a devellopper is IMO not specially a good path.

Fred

Phocus is a very nice piece of software, especially in its most recent version. However, if you work in B/W like me, it really does not have the sophisticated control over colour to B/W conversion that Lightroom has. For that reason alone I would always choose LR for any B/W work.

John

[gazwas]

I probably did not.  Where exactly can I find that procedure?

See link below

http://www.phaseone.com/en/search/article.aspx?articleid=1164&languageid=1

Doing this at every update I have never had any stability or performance issues with my Mac Pro or UMBP.

[Doug Peterson]

I de-installed Capture One and re-installed.  Better. 
I noticed that I had Session Favorites that were no longer available.  Removed them.  Better again.
Still significantly slower than Phocus though.
Thank you!

Each software excels some places and is slower other places and show pretty big differences depending on what kind of machine you're running on. Zoom to 100% on a 39 megapixel raw on a 27" iMac in both software packages on as a dramatic example. C1 really wants more than 2gb of ram and benefits tremendously from multiple cores (I'm not saying Phocus doesn't - I'm not a Phocus super-guru). Phocus benefits from a faster GPU where C1 does not (currently).

Also note that C1, when first accessing a folder of images builds a cache of those images. You can see it is doing this by the rotating circle in the top middle or by going to Window > Activities. During this time operation is significantly slower which often leads users to feel C1 is much slower than it is - for instance if you browse to a folder of 200 images for the first time it might take 3-10 minutes (depending on how big the files are and how fast your computer is) for the cache/previews to build during which time it will feel very sluggish. Similar operation here to Aperture which likewise builds previews during imports. When shooting tethered the image cache files are built while you're shooting, so you rarely notice them.

The benefit of this process is (once the cache is built) that you can select 200 images, and push one keyboard shortcut and have all 200 images bumped up a fraction of a stop in exposure and it will adjust all 200 images (including thumbnails and previews) nearly instantly. Also with the cache files built if you want JPG previews (up to 2400px in size) they can be generated at around 100 per minute (again depending on the speed of your computer).

I would be curious what sorts of operations you're talking about being faster though: startup time? processing time? zoom to 100%? Copy/Apply adjustments?. You can PM if you want to keep the thread clean since we're drifting off topic.

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[Doug Peterson]

Also, Phocus has 2 modes to open, a light and a full one. very good! This has been asked before in the Capture wishes by some users, me included, and I trully think Capture could copy the idea.

In Capture One: Window > Workspace > Simplified. No relaunch required, and if there is a specific advanced tool that you want to add just right click in the tools area and add it.

[Doug Peterson]

If I understand well, the window's version of Phocus is not yet capable of reading third party raws but will be in a close future. All this seems a little confuse to me.

What I like about Phocus is its simplicity. We have to end in photoshop anyway for serious retouching so too much options inboard a devellopper is IMO not specially a good path.

Scenario: you have a shoot with 20 selects all of which involve a model with a particular pair of shoes on which are rendering in a slightly off color (according at least to what the client wants/expects)

At the Photoshop Stage
1. Open the first image (twiddle thumbs while 16 bit 30+ megapixel file opens)
2. Create Adjustment Layer and make changes
3. Save the first image (twiddle thumbs while 16 bit 30+ megapixel file saves)
4. Repeat 1-3 for each of the 20 images

OR

At the Raw Stage
1. Select one image and adjust it
2. Select all images (Apple-A) and push the Local Copy and Apply button

The same goes for exposure tweaks, contrast, clarity, lens correction (huge time saver versus manually or script-based distortion correction).

Plus for the majority of adjustments the resulting file will have more quality/fidelity if the adjustments are made prior to processing rather than after. So for instance pulling up the shadows in C1 vs. processing strait and then lifting them in Photoshop will result in much better shadow quality (tonality, noise, saturation accuracy etc).

That's not to say that most final image won't go to Photoshop at the end, but simply that the more you can do in raw as a batch adjustment the more time you save. This is true regardless of whether you are using LR, Aperture, Phocus, or Capture One.

Doug Peterson (e-mail Me)
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