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onone gallery wrap problem
« on: October 09, 2010, 04:07:32 am »

hello im new to the forum so be kind   ;)

any ideas to why when i use onone genuine fractals i get a line around the gallery wrap, this shows up in the print and i cant see a setting to get rid of it
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Re: onone gallery wrap problem
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2010, 10:15:19 am »


any ideas to why when i use onone genuine fractals i get a line around the gallery wrap, this shows up in the print and i cant see a setting to get rid of it

You don't say where the line is or how big it is, whether it's visible on the monitor, or whether you are printing the image or having it done.

But Genuine Fractals does not add a line, so there's no setting to remove it. That line is occurring somewhere later in the process. You need to examine each step or your or your lab's workflow. It could be nothing more than the lab adding the line because it thinks it looks good or that you requested it.

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Re: onone gallery wrap problem
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2010, 11:05:24 am »

sorry,
im doing this myself in photoshop cs5 and the latest version of onone plugins installed. the CS5 is also a new install. when the gallery wrap is produced by the onone software the line is generated by that process, nothing is done by me except zooming in.

there is a definate line which is showing up on the monitor and the print as a 1mm line, the line is transparent so if i make the background white the line is white, if this is while doing a canvas wrap on a mostly black image the line is very obvious on monitor and print. cant understand why it is there, it seems pointless

this line is seen on the very edge of the wrap where it meets the original image.
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Re: onone gallery wrap problem
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2010, 11:28:27 am »

Check the dpi of your print. Make sure it's an even number, 180, 240, 300 etc.

Some other tools that allow for the extensions will also create the line unless you change
the dpi.

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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2010, 03:01:00 pm »

It's nothing to do with the print resolution.

It is a new feature in GF for creating gallery wraps.  What it's doing is essentially stretching the canvas in PS to fill the borders of the wrap.  This is so no part of the actual image gets lost in wrapping.

It's doing something similar to my Canvas Extension tutorial.  You're going to have the line because it's stretching the image then effectively overlaying the original again so there's a mismatch between the two.  Probably not a lot that can be done about it.  The idea is that the line falls on the edge of the wrap so isn't evident.  That's why I purposely lower the opacity of the stretched image.  I make it a definite break.  If you want to do it manually then you can clean up the edge between the two by cloning/healing but it could be a long process. 
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Re: onone gallery wrap problem
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2010, 06:29:56 pm »

Bob what you are saying makes perfect sense - Unfortunatley.
This change has made GF for gallery wrap effectively useless, i had this happen in a previous version of GF but it seemed to fix itself, no idea what changed unless it was fixed by OnOne in some update automatically.,  but not likely.

If the tech guys and gals over at GF think it is possible to gallery wrap a printed image over stretcher bars with accuracy of one pixed they are deluded. I will continue to find a workaround as the OnOne plugin is great otherwise.........why fix something that aint broke.....
i can and have fixed my image using other PS tools but its a shame that something that was great is no longer an option.

Dam Onone, Dam them.

if anyone ever sorts this out i will be eternally grateful and if anyone has an alternative gallery wrap program or plugin for PS CS5, please share
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Re: onone gallery wrap problem
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2010, 06:35:56 pm »

Flatten the image and the line should go away.
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Re: onone gallery wrap problem
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2010, 07:02:42 pm »

at first i had hoped it was as simple as that,

the line remains ???
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Re: onone gallery wrap problem
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2010, 07:33:14 pm »

Ok, I'm on a Mac running Snow Leopard and the OnOne Suite 6. I just opened up OnOne and there is an update - which I did not run. Was everything working fine and then you ran the update and got the line?
Once in awhile I would get a line but flattening the image would get rid of it. I am also using CS5. You could do this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELJRb6jJgzY&feature=player_embedded. Really quite easy with good results. It could probably get you buy until you can email or call OnOne.
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Re: onone gallery wrap problem
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2010, 08:52:01 pm »

exactly how i do it but for stretch edge not mirror as that so often does not look good. must be a way around the onone thing though, ill need to get in contact with the developers
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Re: onone gallery wrap problem
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2010, 09:05:32 pm »

I find most my clients like the mirrored edge over the stretched edge. For now I'm not running the update. Please let me and others know what you find out from OnOne.
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Re: onone gallery wrap problem
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2010, 06:13:07 am »

AAAAAH HAAAA..........sort of  ;D

i have contacted onone and will post back if they ever answer but i will share a workaround that resolved the problem without too much hassle.

when you use GF and get that line, use the selection tool and drag around the 'border' line. then use the content aware tool to fill it and its gone. Please note you will have to flatten the image first.

not ideal but it will do for now.

almost went back to CS3 then, Phew!
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2010, 07:33:08 am »

Nice workaround.  Wouldn't have thought of that myself. 
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Re: onone gallery wrap problem
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2010, 11:41:46 pm »

Bob,

Actually it might have everything to do with the dpi, try it.
There are several actions on the market that do the thing as GF to stretch the edge out (mirrored, solid etc.)  Often if you don't
use an even dpi number, you will get the line. It won't go away and to do all the stuff
the GF is talking about is a big waste of time.  Just change the dpi and try it.

There have been other posts to the same effect, just no posts on the GF tool.

More about it on Paul J's site under possible problems. His actions do the same thing and you will experience the white line
sometimes if you don't follow his suggesitons on dpi settings.   This goes back to my original post,  GF may have the same problem.
Try it.

http://www.melor.com/wordpress/photography/photoshop-actions/gallery-wrap-action-for-photoshop/

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Re: onone gallery wrap problem
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2010, 04:02:28 am »

Bob i have tried this twice and with GF it makes no difference. i changed the dpi from 300  to 280 and 250, same result - the dreaded line.
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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2010, 07:30:21 am »

Paul, I don't use GF and I have no issue with my method and a white line.  I get a dividing line between the two but that's unavoidable without more work.  If it's an issue of a white line then it's a problem with the way the action is working. 

Canvasdomain, have you printed an image to see if the line remains without fixing it?  Have you tried viewing the image at 100% on screen?  If, as Paul says, the line goes away if the resolution is changed then it could be a matter of how the image is being rendered on screen (shouldn't be, but could be).  If the line appears in the print then it's not a screen rendering problem.  If the line goes away at 100% or in a print then it is a screen rendering issue and the line isn't really there at all.
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Re: onone gallery wrap problem
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2010, 03:55:59 pm »

I sell a gallery wrap action set that does mirrored edges. If you don't have an odd DPI with a decimal i.e. 300.12, then you WILL NOT GET a white line with my action.

If you view this short video, you will see the edge magnified to the pixel level. Perfect mirror. Can be used in batch mode also for larger projects. The action will also create tick lines to help your framer if desired.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1lUgRuJ7tY

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