Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: Can Photography Bookstores Survive?  (Read 2179 times)

Slobodan Blagojevic

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 18090
  • When everyone thinks the same, nobody thinks
    • My website
Can Photography Bookstores Survive?
« on: September 30, 2010, 04:14:18 pm »

The New York Times' blog "Lens" has an interview with "Timothy Whelan [who] will be closing his photography bookstore in Rockport, Me., on Oct. 2. The bookstore, Timothy Whelan Photography Fine Photographic Prints and Books, is known as one of the finest of its kind in the United States. Mr. Whelan discussed photographers, books and the economic difficulties that small bookstores face... ".

The rest of the article: http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/30/can-photography-bookstores-survive/

Geoff Wittig

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1023
Re: Can Photography Bookstores Survive?
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2010, 07:25:23 pm »

I can't imagine how anyone can make money retailing photo books nowadays. Margins are paper thin, inventory rapidly depreciates, the customers beat the crap out of shelf stock without buying it...and you're competing with the Amazon Godzilla.

The best photo bookstore I'm aware of is the gift shop at George Eastman House in Rochester NY; it's only one modest wall of shelves, but the selection is very imaginative- stuff you'll never see on the shelves of your local "Borders 'n Noble".
Logged

Slobodan Blagojevic

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 18090
  • When everyone thinks the same, nobody thinks
    • My website
Re: Can Photography Bookstores Survive?
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2010, 09:04:19 pm »

... The best photo bookstore I'm aware of is the gift shop at George Eastman House in Rochester NY; it's only one modest wall of shelves, but the selection is very imaginative- stuff you'll never see on the shelves of your local "Borders 'n Noble".

I second that. In addition, the gift shop has (or used to) a great baseball cap made to mimic... wait till you hear this... 18% gray! Great for outdoor shooters.

For Europeans, there is an absolutely fantastic photography bookshop in Barcelona, Spain: Kowasa, with something like 11,000 titles. They have an online presence too: http://www.kowasa.com/

Kirk Gittings

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1561
    • http://www.KirkGittings.com
Re: Can Photography Bookstores Survive?
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2010, 10:27:28 pm »

This was both a gallery and a bookstore. So isn't this a much bigger question than the demise of a photo bookstore?
Logged
Thanks,
Kirk Gittings

Rob C

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 24074
Re: Can Photography Bookstores Survive?
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2010, 05:01:13 am »

Slobodan

The interview with Whelan was very interesting. The ending was so accurate: "You have to be insane to go into book selling to make money. The same as going into photography, because you have to. You just can't run from it."

Sums it all up.

Thanks

Rob C

Riaan van Wyk

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 812
Re: Can Photography Bookstores Survive?
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2010, 07:34:53 am »

Perhaps it is not only photography related. I remember the days of well stocked gun shops, flyfishing shops, places where, if you live in the sticks ( far away from towns) like I do you stand in awe at the selection of goods on the shelves. And not just the usual stuff was there to see, but items only read about in magazines too.

The gunshops were a treat, they all had a grumpy gunsmith stuck in a dark corner somewhere who would gladly help with a long missing screw for an old rifle, usually at no charge. But then again I was a kid and they probably saw the enthusiasm I had for firearms.

The flyfishing shop I frequented had an area reserved for the materials used in flytying that was probably 10 by 10 metres wall space. What materials you find these days will probably fit in a shoe box.

And how can I forget the book store where I often spent the whole day as a kid when my mom had to go and do her work in the city..I can still smell the pages of the books.. These things are all long gone.     

Rob C

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 24074
Re: Can Photography Bookstores Survive?
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2010, 11:55:20 am »

Perhaps it is not only photography related. I remember the days of well stocked gun shops, flyfishing shops, places where, if you live in the sticks ( far away from towns) like I do you stand in awe at the selection of goods on the shelves. And not just the usual stuff was there to see, but items only read about in magazines too.

The gunshops were a treat, they all had a grumpy gunsmith stuck in a dark corner somewhere who would gladly help with a long missing screw for an old rifle, usually at no charge. But then again I was a kid and they probably saw the enthusiasm I had for firearms.

The flyfishing shop I frequented had an area reserved for the materials used in flytying that was probably 10 by 10 metres wall space. What materials you find these days will probably fit in a shoe box.

And how can I forget the book store where I often spent the whole day as a kid when my mom had to go and do her work in the city..I can still smell the pages of the books.. These things are all long gone.      

There used to be a gunshop here in Pollensa, where they sold all sorts of arms. I went there to buy fireworks (which they were licensed to sell) to try and scare away the pigeons that shit everywhere and clog the drains and thus cause leaks and dampness in the roofs of the buildings.

The gunshop has gone. Nada mas - zilch left.

In the 60s there was a little Leica specialist in Paisley, in Scotland; he also sold 'blad. In the end, he told me he had given up on 'blad because he couldn't get them at the prices the big boys in London could sell them. That is not fair trading. I always believed that all suppliers should be charged the same from the factory; how else can small shops and towns survive? If you, the dealership, can make economies of scale, they should be in efficiency, not in strong-arm buying practices. I believe that the shop now no longer sells Leica either. March of progress? More like barbarism, to me.

Rob C

Roger Calixto

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 141
Re: Can Photography Bookstores Survive?
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2010, 12:27:36 pm »

And the walmart's of the world will forever reign...

Sad but true. And it's our own darn fault too. I go out of my way to buy from the local brick and mortar because I LOVE going there and looking and touching and talking. But sometimes I just can't justify it. Case in Point the 120-400mm lens I bought last year. I save a couple hundred euro buying online. I took him the print out and asked if he could match the price but he said HE pays more than that, so no.

It's hard to find balance. This brings me to the problem I had a while ago to buy a backpack. I wanted to look, touch, feel and compare the backpacks. Not read online reviews. I wanted to SEE if my gear fit. But I couldn't because there wasn't a place that stocked enough for comparison...
« Last Edit: October 02, 2010, 12:29:52 pm by Roger Calixto »
Logged
--------------
If my day job wasn't so cool, I'd quit and be a photographer =)

Rob C

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 24074
Re: Can Photography Bookstores Survive?
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2010, 12:51:30 pm »

"It's hard to find balance. This brings me to the problem I had a while ago to buy a backpack. I wanted to look, touch, feel and compare the backpacks. Not read online reviews. I wanted to SEE if my gear fit. But I couldn't because there wasn't a place that stocked enough for comparison..."

Roger, I faced exactly that situation earlier this year when I decided I needed a small camera case. I bought a Lowepro Stealth Reporter D200 AW that, though I knew its measurements from the site, turns out, in practice, to be too damn big to be comfortable for its purpose, which was to let me carry a single camera and lens in safety and comfort!

Had I been able to see one first... but maybe that's part of the new selling game: prevent display and allow inertia to stop return of unwanted goods. It worked with me!

Rob C

Roger Calixto

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 141
Re: Can Photography Bookstores Survive?
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2010, 10:25:10 am »

True, but isn't it sad that the whole experience of drooling over new things is taken away? Come to think of it it's like the 19th and early 20th centuries when there used to be only catalogs of stuff you could send off for. For some reason we seem to be regressing instead of progressing?

I have this mental image from some book I've read, the fox and the hound I think, where these hick kids sit on the curb and look through a worn out catalog for something they wanted that cost two dollars. Add inflation and a grown up cost and you've got me (minus the grubby clothes).

Btw. I hate Walmart.

{}
Roger
Logged
--------------
If my day job wasn't so cool, I'd quit and be a photographer =)
Pages: [1]   Go Up