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Riaan van Wyk

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Elephants
« on: September 24, 2010, 12:52:56 am »


I have shown this to a few people and the general consensus was that it doesn't work- subjects too close to the edges, too much space on the bottom. Would it perhaps works as an opening page for a magazine article? Where the spaces could be used for print? I would appreciate your view.

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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2010, 04:00:49 am »

Riaan

Well, you have already told us what's wrong with it. On the plus side, focus is spot-on the right-hand animal, it is mostly sharp, and has excellent B/W tonality. But the composition is terrible - you have cropped it far too tightly, cut off the the left-hand subject, and left a hole in the middle of the picture with no subject at all. And no, you aren't going to save it by hoping a picture editor will pick it up for a full-bleed page in a magazine either. Most picture editors and mag designers have a pretty good eye for composition, too.

Nice elephants, though.

John
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Re: Elephants
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2010, 02:15:18 pm »

What John said...

Cut and move on.

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Re: Elephants
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2010, 02:56:39 pm »

You can't always save an image and in more cases than we care to admit, many are just not worth saving.

I really like the tones and the sharpness and the obvious suggestion of a dependent relationship. I have one suggestion, though it will by no means make it a great image. Perhaps a little better. I have cropped the image to allow only part of the mother elephant to show. This creates a dynamic between the white tusks and eyes of the two elephants and allows the curvature of the two bodies to tie the image together and help lead the eye through an implied circle. Almost everything is preserved.
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Re: Elephants
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2010, 03:10:06 pm »

You can't always save an image and in more cases than we care to admit, many are just not worth saving.

I really like the tones and the sharpness and the obvious suggestion of a dependent relationship. I have one suggestion, though it will by no means make it a great image. Perhaps a little better. I have cropped the image to allow only part of the mother elephant to show. This creates a dynamic between the white tusks and eyes of the two elephants and allows the curvature of the two bodies to tie the image together and help lead the eye through an implied circle. Almost everything is preserved.

Nice try, John, but I think you're flogging a dead horse.

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Re: Elephants
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2010, 03:18:28 pm »

Nice try, John, but I think you're flogging a dead horse.

Jeremy
Of course, you meant a "dead elephant."

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Re: Elephants
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2010, 12:11:59 am »

Thank you folks- I appreciate the comments.

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Re: Elephants
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2010, 12:43:08 pm »

Again, I have some reservations about the composition. Your thoughts please?

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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2010, 01:48:02 pm »

tried to narrow the scene a little bit and emphasize the expressions of the elephants - meeting of the minds, perhaps ?
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2010, 01:51:46 pm »

Riaan, Fine composition. That one's definitely a keeper.
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Re: Elephants
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2010, 01:59:20 pm »

- meeting of the minds, perhaps ?

Yeah, exactly what these animals were doing- being from different herds. I tried to show/ add scale by including the height of the elephants but I got the feeling that something is missing.

Perhaps the attached image shows the intimacy more, this time between same-herd animals.

As much as I don't like elephants ( personal experience) I find them difficult to compose too.

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Re: Elephants
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2010, 02:04:36 pm »

Riaan, Fine composition. That one's definitely a keeper.

Much obliged Russ..

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Re: Elephants
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2010, 03:01:31 pm »

tried to narrow the scene a little bit and emphasize the expressions of the elephants - meeting of the minds, perhaps ?
I think that's a better crop. I'd rather like to "uncrop" a bit on the left hand side, though: the eye feels just a bit too close to the edge. Riaan, was there any more image there?

Jeremy
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