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New lighting at Photokina 2010
« on: September 18, 2010, 07:10:23 pm »

Hensel adopts Profoto Air wireless, introduces new monolights, packs and more

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-10055-10930
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Re: New lighting at Photokina 2010
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2010, 10:47:03 pm »

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Re: New lighting at Photokina 2010
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2010, 01:11:34 am »

About a year ago, I made some suggestions to Broncolor:

bi-tube ringflash, extra power needed when using with their Para umbrellas

compact Pulso lamphead, as their Pulso G and Pulso Twin lampheads are similar in size & weight to Profoto's D1 monoblocs

simplify power pack offerings....replace the Nano, Topas and Verso power packs with a revised Mobil A2R and A4R (either with Lithium-ion battery
or AC/Mains adapter as with Hensel's Porty Lithium series)

Hoping they listened.
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Re: New lighting at Photokina 2010
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2010, 05:05:48 pm »

Hi Billy,

If you are curious take a look here:

http://www.broncolor.com/broncolor/news/products/#c35

At least there is a small head and a new pack, but I suppose it might not fit your needs. Answering the video needs there is an adaptor to use Kobold (HMI) lampbases with some of the bron modifiers. I´ll take a deeper look next week.

Cheers, Ulf

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Re: New lighting at Photokina 2010
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2010, 06:26:42 pm »

Thank you Ulf.

Now to see what Profoto announces.
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Re: New lighting at Photokina 2010
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2010, 06:28:48 pm »

Good move from Hensel to adapt Profotos Air system instead of trying to make their own as good or better.

I'm too interested in what Profoto will announce. Always hoped they would bring 2400 ws battery pack but doesn't seem likely after the release of B3air

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Re: New lighting at Photokina 2010
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2010, 07:14:57 pm »

Lower pricing on the flagship products would be nice, too.

Does a $10K power pack make sense when a Canon 5D2 costs $2500 ?
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Re: New lighting at Photokina 2010
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2010, 07:56:43 pm »

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Re: New lighting at Photokina 2010
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2010, 07:57:12 pm »

Lower pricing on the flagship products would be nice, too.

Does a $10K power pack make sense when a Canon 5D2 costs $2500 ?

What about a $740 flash tube!
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Re: New lighting at Photokina 2010
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2010, 08:11:21 pm »

What about a $740 flash tube!

Wish the Profoto reflectors were made with heavier gauge metal to withstand denting better.
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Re: New lighting at Photokina 2010
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2010, 09:11:49 pm »

Lower pricing on the flagship products would be nice, too.

Does a $10K power pack make sense when a Canon 5D2 costs $2500 ?

Well, same old story, small series mean expensive prices.

Most of the technology used in the 5DII is very similar to that of the 550D that sells millions of copies a year.

Studio equipment will remain more expensive. In that context though, some brands are more expensive than others obviously.

Cheers,
Bernard

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Re: New lighting at Photokina 2010
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2010, 09:32:56 pm »

Anyone know pricing on the Senso and Litos yet?
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Re: New lighting at Photokina 2010
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2010, 10:21:42 pm »

Well, same old story, small series mean expensive prices.

Most of the technology used in the 5DII is very similar to that of the 550D that sells millions of copies a year.

Studio equipment will remain more expensive. In that context though, some brands are more expensive than others obviously.

Cheers,
Bernard


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Re: New lighting at Photokina 2010
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2010, 10:44:46 pm »

over 4550 posts...

Hum... sorry for stating the obvious. Shouldn't your comment have been directed at the initial question?

By the way, out of curiosity I just checked your posting specs. You are at 1.385 post per day as opposed to 1.74 for me. Since I used to post a lot more than I have recently, my guess is that we are at about the same level these past 6 months. :)

At least the last one shows that yours aren't all goundbreaking either.  ;D

Cheers,
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Re: New lighting at Photokina 2010
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2010, 07:16:15 am »

My bad. A little too much wine last night...
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Re: New lighting at Photokina 2010
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2010, 07:52:04 am »

My bad. A little too much wine last night...

Same thing here actually, well it was a mix of wine and Calvados in fact.  ;)

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Re: New lighting at Photokina 2010
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2010, 02:42:41 pm »

the lamp looks nice, but it has only 3oo w modlight, only 4.5m cable, and according to bron,
"The Litos lamp or Litos flash tube can only be used with the Senso power packs".

in my opinion the bron pulso design is still great, and it seems to be a bad decission to introduce equipment pulso incompatible .


Hi Billy,

If you are curious take a look here:

http://www.broncolor.com/broncolor/news/products/#c35

At least there is a small head and a new pack, but I suppose it might not fit your needs. Answering the video needs there is an adaptor to use Kobold (HMI) lampbases with some of the bron modifiers. I´ll take a deeper look next week.

Cheers, Ulf
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Re: New lighting at Photokina 2010
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2010, 03:18:39 pm »

I agree the new head design only being able to work with the senso seems like a bad idea.

Curious to see what pricing will be on the senso.
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Re: New lighting at Photokina 2010
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2010, 03:56:54 pm »

the lamp looks nice, but it has only 3oo w modlight, only 4.5m cable, and according to bron,
"The Litos lamp or Litos flash tube can only be used with the Senso power packs".

in my opinion the bron pulso design is still great, and it seems to be a bad decission to introduce equipment pulso incompatible .



Yep,

exactly what I thought, I don´t mind the size and weight of the pulso heads, they do a perfect job and with all that stuff we carry around, who cares? Looking at the specs of the senso pack (flash duration with pulso vs. litos lamp base) shows a significant difference, to obtain a shorter flash duration the litos suck a lot more power out of the pack, that is why they cannot be used with the other packs - hmmm, I´ll take a deeper look soon.
On the other side, look at the size of the lamp connectors, the senso pack seems to be really extremly small and I´m sure there will be a market for it. Profoto has the acutes and (for other reasons) they don´t fit in the professional Pro7 / Pro8 series, too.

I am wondering wether the the RFS II will work with the old RFS, could not find any information. One of brons strengths used to be their long time compatibility.

Cheers, Ulf



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Re: New lighting at Photokina 2010
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2010, 08:52:51 pm »

I would love if Elinchrom introduced lithium power for the Rangers to "lighten the load".  The batteries for the Hensel Porty are less than 1/4 the weight of the elinchrom ranger batteries (2.5 lbs vs. 10.5 lbs)

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