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Papua New Guinea from Hasselblad H4d-60
« on: September 14, 2010, 09:06:49 am »

Hi everyone!!!
 This is some picture from http://www.pbase.com/khunchild/papua_new_guinea



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Re: Papua New Guinea from Hasselblad H4d-60
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2010, 09:07:42 am »

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Re: Papua New Guinea from Hasselblad H4d-60
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2010, 09:08:35 am »

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Re: Papua New Guinea from Hasselblad H4d-60
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2010, 09:09:04 am »

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Re: Papua New Guinea from Hasselblad H4d-60
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2010, 09:10:22 am »

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Re: Papua New Guinea from Hasselblad H4d-60
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2010, 10:41:56 am »

Wow.  Absolutely superb imagery.  Well worth the incredible amount of work it must have taken.
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Re: Papua New Guinea from Hasselblad H4d-60
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2010, 12:26:29 pm »

Very nice, what lighting equipment, modifiers etc. did you use?

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Re: Papua New Guinea from Hasselblad H4d-60
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2010, 12:38:07 pm »

Fantastic work!  Thanks for sharing!
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Re: Papua New Guinea from Hasselblad H4d-60
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2010, 12:50:34 pm »

Please tell the story behind the photos, how were you received by the natives, etc.

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Re: Papua New Guinea from Hasselblad H4d-60
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2010, 11:00:04 pm »

So finally got the H4D-60? Nice images.

Regards, K
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Re: Papua New Guinea from Hasselblad H4d-60
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2010, 05:03:34 am »

Great images in every respect but one - and I know that this is a matter of personal taste: I really do not like that "brighter than ambient daylight" lighting of the subjects. It seems to be the current vogue and I think that it spoils what are otherwise great shots.
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Re: Papua New Guinea from Hasselblad H4d-60
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2010, 11:37:43 am »

Great images in every respect but one - and I know that this is a matter of personal taste: I really do not like that "brighter than ambient daylight" lighting of the subjects. It seems to be the current vogue and I think that it spoils what are otherwise great shots.
I disagree with the ruin part(1), but it do looks odd and interesting. You mention vogue: Maybe we are going back to the glory days of lab modifications? 
If that happen, and the precise reproduction of reality + creative perspective(2) go to an end as the tell all of digital photos, that could be great for the more creative professionals. The work will have obvious(3)  qualities that the good enough set will not be able to reproduce by buying a better more "intelligent" cameras.

When I was a boy I used to go to the library and ask for photography books. A lot of the images where heavy post-processed 
in the wet LAB. The images were thus separated from reality, but vital and beautiful.

Painting moved from the representation of reality to more abstract forms in a path that resembles a roller-coaster. Similar processes apply to the history of music (instrument focus) and sculpture.

Digital photography is not different. I am more of a realist so to speak. I use as little post processing as I am able to get away with.  Not being a professional helps. No need to deal with external pressure. Even so I have this soft bone for more abstract work, maybe from my younger days.
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1. I know is a valid, respectful opinion.  This is just my take on it.
2. by perspective I don't mean the technical terms, more the intuitive word that includes angles and lighting etc.
3. Some times you need a good one to recognize a good one. And that's a billing problem.
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Re: Papua New Guinea from Hasselblad H4d-60
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2010, 07:56:53 pm »

Great shots.

I taught in PNG in the early 80's and it was an interesting place, I even taught the now Prime Minister's daughter. The shows there were especially fantastic, I got to Moresby and Lae shows and would have loved to get to the Mount Hagen show. The sing sings were particularly visual.

PNG is tropical and because of this photographing the Papuans is extremely difficult. Basically you have very dark skinned people in a very sunny environment. Nearly all of the successful images of them that I have seen have used some form of artificial light otherwise the dynamic range is a nightmare. You can see my images of the Port Moresby show here:

http://www.tombrown.id.au/classic/png/album/index.html

That's what happens when you shoot in the midday sun.

Cheers,
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Re: Papua New Guinea from Hasselblad H4d-60
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2010, 09:03:19 pm »


Congrats a really nice body of work. And thanks for sharing!

- N.
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Re: Papua New Guinea from Hasselblad H4d-60
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2010, 12:03:16 pm »

Yes, there's nothing wrong with some fill flash to balance daylight. But this is something else. Daylight hasn't been balanced; it's been overwhelmed. It's quite a deliberate thing; the natural world outside isn't good enough so let's "take the studio outside". I understand that some people may like that look. I just don't.
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Re: Papua New Guinea from Hasselblad H4d-60
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2010, 02:01:23 pm »

When first viewing this work I was unsure, powerful images, certainly, but at the same time quite bizarre.

Subsequent viewings and my over-riding feeling is why? Why portray these people in such an un-naturalistic way? Perhaps the intention was to accentuate the fact that the subjects are no longer the people they once were and are being exploited?
 

I second this feeling. Great quality, but when I saw them I immediately thought they were overdone. I would have preferred no additional lighting other than the sun. ala Steve McCurry.

edit: It almost feels like it was a production with props and actors.
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Re: Papua New Guinea from Hasselblad H4d-60
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2010, 02:37:46 pm »

Jonathan

Did anyone get eaten? If not, it was showbiz.

Mr P?

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Re: Papua New Guinea from Hasselblad H4d-60
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2010, 07:53:12 pm »

Sing sings may be a little haphazard but are definitely showbiz.

Maybe a video to give you the idea, it's a bit slow at the start:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcealFUTqb4&feature=related

Or a slide show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4ke-t9nmjU&NR=1

Unfortunately PNG has deteriorated over the years, this is what the Australian government advises:

http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/zw-cgi/view/Advice/papua_new_guinea

Actually my first though when I saw the thread was what security did you have taking a Hasselblad H4d-60 to PNG?

Cheers,



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Re: Papua New Guinea from Hasselblad H4d-60
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2010, 08:20:05 pm »

Lucky people in PGN to have some or even many photographers going to photograph them with MF or LF bodies.
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Re: Papua New Guinea from Hasselblad H4d-60
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2010, 09:18:45 pm »

A quote from the travel advisory:

"We advise you to exercise a high degree of caution in Papua New Guinea because of the high levels of serious crime. Pay close attention to your personal security at all times and monitor the media for information about possible new safety or security risks.

Crime is random and particularly prevalent in urban areas such as Port Moresby, Lae and Mt Hagen. Settlement areas of towns and cities are particularly dangerous. 'Bush knives' (machetes) and firearms are often used in assaults and thefts. Carjackings, assaults (including sexual assaults), bag snatching and robberies are common. Banks and automatic teller machines are attractive targets for criminals. The crime rate tends to increase leading into the Christmas holiday period."

Not the best place toshow off an expensive bit of kit.

Cheers,
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