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Photokina Coverage by Capture Integration
« on: September 09, 2010, 02:22:43 PM »

Photokina is just around the corner. With Photokina always comes tons of news. Rather than spam the board with dozens of threads I thought I would start one thread (this one) where I will post all of our coverage, opinions, and Q&A.

We encourage you to post any questions you would like answered at Photokina and we'll do our best to answer each. Dave Gallagher and I (Doug Peterson) will there in person to followup on announcements with interviews with the technical staff and management of the relevant companies. In the past one of the most frustrating parts of Photokina has been that the Press Releases and manufacturer web pages do not include some small-but-important detail which goes unanswered for days or weeks. Being there in person we hope to followup on such questions immediately.

Pre-Photokina news
- 40% off Capture One Pro [http://tinyurl.com/269vybz]
- Capture One Pro already making full use of 12-core Mac Pros [http://tinyurl.com/26lc6m9]
- Phase One V-Grip Air []

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Re: Photokina Coverage by Capture Integration
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2010, 02:47:10 PM »

Photokina is just around the corner. With Photokina always comes tons of news. Rather than spam the board with dozens of threads I thought I would start one thread (this one) where I will post all of our coverage, opinions, and Q&A.
How does the Hasselblad H4D-60 compare with the Phase P65+?
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Re: Photokina Coverage by Capture Integration
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2010, 02:53:17 PM »

How does the Hasselblad H4D-60 compare with the Phase P65+?


That was an easier question a few months ago!  ;D

We try very hard not to comment on products we don't sell - we're not the experts on those products and we're inherently biased!

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Re: Photokina Coverage by Capture Integration
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2010, 03:18:10 PM »

How does the Hasselblad H4D-60 compare with the Phase P65+?
The P56+ is equipped with only 4 buttons whereas the H60 back has 5 buttons. So the H60 is somewhat better.
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Re: Photokina Coverage by Capture Integration
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2010, 03:23:51 PM »

- Capture One Pro already making full use of 12-core Mac Pros [http://tinyurl.com/26lc6m9]

Quote: "See below a screen grab showing the heavy use of all the machine’s cores during the processing of ten P65+ files. The “dips” in the graph are when the processing of a file is completed and the result is being written to disk."

I don't want to see 11 (or 23 with HyperThreading) cores twiddle their thumbs because one other core is doing disk IO (at least as long as there is remaining free memory). That's "making full use of 12-core Mac Pros" only 75% of the time...
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Re: Photokina Coverage by Capture Integration
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2010, 03:49:19 PM »

Quote: "See below a screen grab showing the heavy use of all the machine’s cores during the processing of ten P65+ files. The “dips” in the graph are when the processing of a file is completed and the result is being written to disk."

I don't want to see 11 (or 23 with HyperThreading) cores twiddle their thumbs because one other core is doing disk IO (at least as long as there is remaining free memory). That's "making full use of 12-core Mac Pros" only 75% of the time...


True - the write to disk is limited by disk speed which doesn't increase when you increase the speed or number of cores of your CPU. Disk writes can be made faster with faster drives (e.g. 10k or 15k drives or high quality SSD drives) or using multiple drives in RAID-0. However, you're completely correct that C1 can't saturate the CPU while also writing the results to disk. Our description of "making full use of" refers to the fact that if you have a 12-core machine (24 virtual cores) and a 6-core machine (12 virtual cores) you will gain a LOT of speed (around 1.7x) in Capture One Pro whereas some programs (notably CS5) will actually run slower on the 12-core machine.

Also, every version of Capture One has brought better use of system resources, especially on multi-core machines. So I'd expect the near-to-mid term future to bring further optimization of such high-core machines.

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Re: Photokina Coverage by Capture Integration
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2010, 04:57:07 PM »

When are we likely to see a Phase One, full/near full frame chip (40-50MP in the middle of current backs) that doesn't involve selling a kidney to purchase?  ???

P45 is looking a little tired next to the new gen of Blads and I'm in the market for a camera like the HD4-50.  
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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2010, 08:45:14 PM »

and by the way... with two OWC Mercury Extreme Pro SSD's in RAID 0, I'm getting better than 500 MB/Sec write speed.... so C1 Pro isn't having to spend THAT much time waiting for disks.

Technology just keeps getting better and better.  Too bad the SATA Bus is saturated around 650 MB/Sec or I'd stripe in a third.

In recent news, almost finished editing my first video shot with the 5d2... looking beautiful.  Also just shot my first exteriors since getting the Rm3d... worked with the 35mm the 55mm and the 70mm and never had to change focus.... very cool.

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Re: Photokina Coverage by Capture Integration
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2010, 08:58:31 PM »

and by the way... with two OWC Mercury Extreme Pro SSD's in RAID 0, I'm getting better than 500 MB/Sec write speed.... so C1 Pro isn't having to spend THAT much time waiting for disks.

Technology just keeps getting better and better.  Too bad the SATA Bus is saturated around 650 MB/Sec or I'd stripe in a third.

In recent news, almost finished editing my first video shot with the 5d2... looking beautiful.  Also just shot my first exteriors since getting the Rm3d... worked with the 35mm the 55mm and the 70mm and never had to change focus.... very cool.

CB

Chris,

Did you shoot video for product or architecture with the 5d2?
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Re: Photokina Coverage by Capture Integration
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2010, 10:17:36 PM »

and by the way... with two OWC Mercury Extreme Pro SSD's in RAID 0, I'm getting better than 500 MB/Sec write speed.... so C1 Pro isn't having to spend THAT much time waiting for disks.

It doesn't help you're processing those hefty 65+ files!

Thanks again for all the help assessing C1 on 16 core machines. You were very generous with your time!

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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2010, 03:27:38 AM »

Well, I pretty much only have one question.. when will we see P1 backs with a display designed in the 21st century?
Oh, and one more thing, I remember a rumor that Phase and Mamiya were working on a completely new camera,
and not just a tweaked 645AFD, is it true and if so when can we expect to see something?
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Re: Photokina Coverage by Capture Integration
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2010, 01:02:54 PM »

Prekina update: Capture One 5.2 released
http://www.captureintegration.com/2010/09/14/capture-one-5-2/
- LCC based dust removal.
- LCC support for Leaf portable files (also used for tethered operation)
- LCC support for large number of DSLR RAW formats.
- Live View support for Leaf backs and Mamiya DM systems.
- Significantly improved tethered performance for Leaf Aptus II series backs.
- Updated firmware for selected Leaf backs and Mamiya DM systems.
- More camera controls supported for some cameras.
- Preferences to disable tethered support based on camera make.
- Color tag in processed file.
- New lens profile for Phase One 35mm lens
- New lens profile for Schneider Kreuznach LS 110mm lens.
- Improved P65+ image quality.
- Improved colors and consistency on a number of Nikon cameras (*)
- Improved tone response in ISO mode L1.0, L0.7 and L0.3 for a number of Nikon cameras (*)
- A number of bug fixes.

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Re: Photokina Coverage by Capture Integration
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2010, 02:41:12 PM »

Re: LCD. Phase One is not blind to the fact that their LCD is about the same as the one-generation-old Canon 1Ds Mark 2. The fact they have continued to lead the market in sales without a model with an updated LCD shows how strong the overall product is. A Phase One with a new LCD would clearly sell well. Only time will tell. Fortunately "time" in this case may be as little as one week. Stay tuned!

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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2010, 04:39:18 PM »

Fortunately "time" in this case may be as little as one week. Stay tuned!
Hey Doug, is this a sneaky hint or you just hoping like the rest of us?  ;)
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2010, 05:46:19 PM »

 :)
so we'll see in a week
exciting
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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2010, 05:59:16 PM »

Prekina update: 120mm Schneider tilt-shift lens for Phase One DF

Really "for DF", or for any of the 645AF[D] cameras too? I don't see the DF specifically mentioned in the Schneider PDF.

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« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2010, 06:05:26 PM »

Really "for DF", or for any of the 645AF[D] cameras too? I don't see the DF specifically mentioned in the Schneider PDF.



The pdf is lacking any real information. Since it doesnt specifically say it has a leaf shutter, I assume it does not and therefore should be able to work fine with the AF, as well.
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Re: Photokina Coverage by Capture Integration
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2010, 06:54:40 PM »

Exactly the kind of questions that are left after Photokina announcements and precisely why we are traveling to Germany to be there in person to hunt down such answers in real time.

We will find out for sure for everyone and post it in this thread.
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