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Any worthwhile MF innovation to be expected at Kina?
« on: August 16, 2010, 03:22:06 AM »

No hot rumors brewing?

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Re: Any worthwhile MF innovation to be expected at Kina?
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2010, 12:43:46 PM »

A new high-end Sinar digital back will take the place of the actual eVolution 75H multishoot. With more pixels. But with or without screen ? And working with an iPad who can give an high-end live video ?

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Re: Any worthwhile MF innovation to be expected at Kina?
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2010, 01:12:31 PM »

a 5x4 Foveon-type chip made by Contax and licensed to Holga for use in their new high iso (1,024,000), 76 fps, $99 plastic rangefinder. The latter will also sport a new 5x4, 16-bit, 960M LED display.

Initially it'll only be sold in the Outer Hebrides islands but a company spokesman has indicated that as production ramps up and depending to customers' feedback, it will consider expanding the business into a few other small island groups in the South Pacific.

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Re: Any worthwhile MF innovation to be expected at Kina?
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2010, 01:48:46 PM »

This is fun:)

How about

  • a  direct image virtualization technology with scalable output architecture from a developed film negative to 24" print, including real-time replication and off-site backup solution to up to 5 continents.
  • Camera bodies available in either 4, 8 and 12 core configuration.
  • Nuclear-powered batteries with upto 35 years charge and minimal explosive hazard.
  • Capability to share power with local appliences when not in use.

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Re: Any worthwhile MF innovation to be expected at Kina?
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2010, 03:17:36 PM »

Staying strictly within the realm of the technologically possible (in 2010)... :)

I'd like to see a new P+ back from PhaseOne using the Kodak KAF-40000 (the same chip in the Pentax 645D and Hasselblad H4D-40). This is the highest performance-per-pixel MFD sensor around at the moment (highest q.e., joint lowest readnoise, joint lowest dark current). Forget your P40+ and P65+, which like all DALSA MF CCDs, have poor dark current (hence the 1 minute exposure limit).
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Re: Any worthwhile MF innovation to be expected at Kina?
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2010, 03:23:00 PM »

I'd like to see a new P+ back from PhaseOne using the Kodak KAF-40000 (the same chip in the Pentax 645D and Hasselblad H4D-40). This is the highest performance-per-pixel MFD sensor around at the moment (highest q.e., joint lowest readnoise, joint lowest dark current). Forget your P40+ and P65+, which like all DALSA MF CCDs, have poor dark current (hence the 1 minute exposure limit).

This is interesting. I think you are one of the few that feels this way.
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Re: Any worthwhile MF innovation to be expected at Kina?
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2010, 03:30:39 PM »

I can imagine that Phase & Leaf will introduce Capture One's focus mask in the firmware of their backs ... or any kind of image-based focus confirmation (as sensor based live-view prior to the actual capture is not possible). Maybe also on board JPG conversion...

I also expect the Super Digitar 28mm to be ready at Photokina...
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Re: Any worthwhile MF innovation to be expected at Kina?
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2010, 04:03:03 PM »

This is fun:)

How about

  • a  direct image virtualization technology with scalable output architecture from a developed film negative to 24" print, including real-time replication and off-site backup solution to up to 5 continents.
  • Camera bodies available in either 4, 8 and 12 core configuration.
  • Nuclear-powered batteries with upto 35 years charge and minimal explosive hazard.
  • Capability to share power with local appliences when not in use.


I am for all of these, especially the nuclear batteries; hell they've been in satellites for years. 

I think it would also be cool to incorporates Leaf's revolving sensor into all of Phase's backs. 
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Re: Any worthwhile MF innovation to be expected at Kina?
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2010, 04:20:06 PM »

What about radiation hazard?

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Re: Any worthwhile MF innovation to be expected at Kina?
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2010, 04:39:26 PM »

I heard they bring out a neuro interface which directly acesses your eyesight for photography and sucks what you see into an ssd.

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Re: Any worthwhile MF innovation to be expected at Kina?
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2010, 05:19:57 PM »

we better use really good glasses then:)

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Re: Any worthwhile MF innovation to be expected at Kina?
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2010, 09:51:50 PM »

Mamiya/Phase ZD mkII.

Bueller...?
Bueller...?
Anyone...?
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Re: Any worthwhile MF innovation to be expected at Kina?
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2010, 10:44:24 PM »

This is not too far from a design I have been thinking up...not out of your eye, but...

You end up wearing a partial helmet like device that has a loop eye piece that flips down in front that records and captures stills (if that will make any difference) using nerve reseptors to know where your eye is focusing, so the lens reacts with your eye.  The visual is imaged using optics to reflect, and transfer to a large MF sensor on the back of the unit on your head.  Canon will have the MF chip but license to differnt makers of differnt style head cams, Porsche Design will have a carbon fibre model encasing the inards. Luois Vuitton will have a leather version, while Chanel a micro thin ceramic version.  A stereo model will follow and be able to record 3D video.
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Re: Any worthwhile MF innovation to be expected at Kina?
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2010, 03:40:40 AM »

I hope phaseone is working on leafshutter lenses. Perhaps we will see a new line of all leaf shutter lenses, of course it will be just in photographs, or more likely a beautiful 3D rendering like the red cameras. This is a never ending story, i'd like to not worry about what is going to be announced and not sold in the next months

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Re: Any worthwhile MF innovation to be expected at Kina?
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2010, 08:44:00 AM »

This is interesting. I think you are one of the few that feels this way.

"Feel", in what sense? I was being factual, not emotional. Not quite sure what you mean, Jonathan.
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Re: Any worthwhile MF innovation to be expected at Kina?
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2010, 09:17:59 AM »

A new high-end Sinar digital back will take the place of the actual eVolution 75H multishoot. With more pixels. But with or without screen ? And working with an iPad who can give an high-end live video ?

PdF

Is this your source?

http://photorumors.com/2010/08/12/sinar-with-a-new-digital-back-at-photokina-2011/
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Re: Any worthwhile MF innovation to be expected at Kina?
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2010, 10:17:06 AM »

With PdF the source should be better than this.
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Re: Any worthwhile MF innovation to be expected at Kina?
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2010, 02:34:51 PM »

Indeed interesting and I expect better information from Pdf as well. A more than 33MP multishot back is interesting. The only current ones with higher rez. are the 39 and 50.  I pretty much rule out the 39, the 50 being a Kodak is possible but it would be nice if they got the 60Mp Dalsa in a ms form. The instant king of IQ :)

We'll see.
 
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