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Re: Comments on new site design
« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2010, 11:37:20 AM »

Non threaded view is bound to cause misunderstandings because your never know who people are answering to if content is not quoted.
I'll also agree in that an internet discussion asks for careful use of quote. Note that threaded view is also dependant on user's care to hit the correct "reply" button (ie not simply the "reply to the thread" at bottom of page).

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Looking at a threaded conversation without a threaded view is bit like looking at a 3D object in 2D.
You mean... like looking at a photograph?
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« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2010, 12:05:51 PM »

Try clearing your cache in Firefox, that might help.
That is tools/Clear recent History/Cache

Firefox has been slowing down for me so I have tried it.

¿Will 8GB help?
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Re: Comments on new site design
« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2010, 02:04:17 PM »

I really wish there was a simple "New Posts" link in addition to a  "unread posts" link, because as soon as you look at something it then disappears into the ether of general discussion forum.

Does anyone have a simple http search link that we could use ourselves to achieve this? I remember on a forum I moderate there was one that ended in something like 1-10 for the number of days of simply recent posts it would show.

The "unread posts" is just a search code right? What would it be for "New Posts"?
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« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2010, 12:43:06 PM »

[Update:] aha: I just found the "unread posts since your last visit" link after I had logged in - look for the link top right.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?action=unread

Is that what you wanted?

How could I have overlooked that I wonder? I'm sure it wasn't there yesterday when I put my original grumble in  ???
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Re: Comments on new site design
« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2010, 06:30:40 PM »

Today's the first time I've posted since the redesign and when I posted some replies, rather than taking me to end of thread when my post appears I end up on unread posts page, which is extremely annoying as I have to go back a few pages in browser, then reload to see if post actually posted and return to thread.

As others have pointed out, LL banner at top is unnecessarily big and page numbers at bottom are unnecessarily small. Plus I think next page/page numbers should be at bottom right not bottom left as we read L-R not R-L in English.

And ironically the board logged me out when I tried to post theses comment and tells me I've already submitted the post when I've logged back in. Despite no post appearing. This post is a second brand new post
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Re: Comments on new site design
« Reply #45 on: August 25, 2010, 06:39:42 PM »

Today's the first time I've posted since the redesign and when I posted some replies, rather than taking me to end of thread when my post appears I end up on unread posts page, which is extremely annoying as I have to go back a few pages in browser, then reload to see if post actually posted and return to thread.
There's a preference checkbox, "Return to topics after posting by default". It's in the "look and layout" panel of your preferences dialog.

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Re: Comments on new site design
« Reply #46 on: August 25, 2010, 06:46:11 PM »

Ta for that, though seeing your reply should be default not a hidden option option. I've used t'interweb forums for many moons now and never had to go back looking for my post before.
Though if you edited a post, you got returned to the post and not taken elsewhere
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Re: Comments on new site design
« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2010, 11:56:38 PM »

Is it just more or has the "Show unread posts since last visit" not been working correctly the last day or two? Did something change?

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« Reply #48 on: August 28, 2010, 10:58:33 AM »

Is it just more or has the "Show unread posts since last visit" not been working correctly the last day or two? Did something change?
It does have one weird behavior that I think I've identified. You might start out with 2 or 3 pages of "unread posts", but by the time you go through a number of the ones you want to read, the number of pages has reduced, making it difficult to locate the ones that used to be on page 3 that are now on page 2.

As a workaround, before I click on the next page number, I try to remember which item was at the bottom of the current page, and then look for that on on the next page to see where to continue. It's a nuisance, but I can live with it.

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Re: Comments on new site design
« Reply #49 on: August 28, 2010, 03:01:39 PM »

It does have one weird behavior that I think I've identified. You might start out with 2 or 3 pages of "unread posts", but by the time you go through a number of the ones you want to read, the number of pages has reduced, making it difficult to locate the ones that used to be on page 3 that are now on page 2.

As a workaround, before I click on the next page number, I try to remember which item was at the bottom of the current page, and then look for that on on the next page to see where to continue. It's a nuisance, but I can live with it.

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Eric, I commented on that a while ago (look above in this thread, I think).

The answer lies, I conclude, in the fact that the new software refreshes the search under certain circumstances (such as when you post a reply), so that posts which were new when you first arrived but which you have now read disappear. I don't regard that as an improvement but I can understand how it happens.

Sometimes, I hit command-R to refresh the page before I try to move from it. When the site is busy, that has the advantage that it picks up new posts since you arrived.

Does anyone other than me miss the "your last visit was at xx" which used to greet us when we returned under the old system? Could it be restored? I'd rather have it than "Hey, kikashi!" but I'm an old fogey.

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Re: Comments on new site design
« Reply #50 on: August 28, 2010, 03:07:30 PM »

It does have one weird behavior that I think I've identified. You might start out with 2 or 3 pages of "unread posts", but by the time you go through a number of the ones you want to read, the number of pages has reduced, making it difficult to locate the ones that used to be on page 3 that are now on page 2.

As a workaround, before I click on the next page number, I try to remember which item was at the bottom of the current page, and then look for that on on the next page to see where to continue. It's a nuisance, but I can live with it.

Eric
The problem I'm seeing is that it was telling me there are no new posts since my last visit, even though I know that's true. It's like the 'last visit' value gets reset to 'now'. It doesn't happen every single time, but more often than not lately. This wasn't happening for the first week or so after the upgrade, it just started recently.

For now my workaround is to save a bookmark to the "all unread posts" link and use that instead, but it's not ideal.

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Re: Comments on new site design
« Reply #51 on: September 07, 2010, 08:32:12 PM »

The trick is that you must login from the "Login" button just to the right of "Members" (near the upper right), and NOT from the Username and Password boxes in the upper right. After you click "Login" you will see boxes with places for Username and Password as well as the check-box for something like "Keep me logged in forever" (the default is something like 60 minutes.)

I can’t find that option although I did see it mentioned in the help area. I have a field where I can enter a time value that had a default of 60 minutes. I popped in 2000 for grins, that didn’t work. I’m running Safari, but I can’t understand why the “keep me logged in forever” isn’t seen. I keep having to log in and its kind of a nuisance.
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Re: Comments on new site design
« Reply #52 on: September 07, 2010, 08:51:25 PM »

I can’t find that option although I did see it mentioned in the help area. I have a field where I can enter a time value that had a default of 60 minutes. I popped in 2000 for grins, that didn’t work. I’m running Safari, but I can’t understand why the “keep me logged in forever” isn’t seen. I keep having to log in and its kind of a nuisance.

You will only see the Login button in the top toolbar when you are not already logged in (it changes to "Logout" once you are logged in).  There should be a checkbox on that same page that says "Always stay logged in"

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Re: Comments on new site design
« Reply #53 on: September 07, 2010, 09:30:06 PM »

You will only see the Login button in the top toolbar when you are not already logged in (it changes to "Logout" once you are logged in).  There should be a checkbox on that same page that says "Always stay logged in"

I saw it, I clicked on the check box. Didn’t work for me. But I’ll try again.
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« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2010, 11:40:31 PM »

I saw it, I clicked on the check box. Didn’t work for me. But I’ll try again.
Do try again. I'm pretty sure it didn't work for me the first time, but it did the second (or third?) and I haven't had to login since.
Good luck!

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« Reply #55 on: September 08, 2010, 10:05:26 AM »

Do try again. I'm pretty sure it didn't work for me the first time, but it did the second (or third?) and I haven't had to login since.

That may be key. This morning, it stuck! Thanks for the help. I guess it just needs a few tries.
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« Reply #56 on: September 08, 2010, 10:31:08 AM »

That may be key. This morning, it stuck! Thanks for the help. I guess it just needs a few tries.

Sometimes cookies "stick" in browsers and you either have to manually clear them out or wait until they "kick" properly :(
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« Reply #57 on: September 08, 2010, 12:31:22 PM »

Sometimes cookies "stick" in browsers and you either have to manually clear them out or wait until they "kick" properly :(
That's why I much prefer home-baked chocolate chip cookies, and I keep them well away from my browser. They never stick around too long.

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« Reply #58 on: September 08, 2010, 08:26:22 PM »

Well I’m thrilled to report that its sticking now.
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« Reply #59 on: September 08, 2010, 08:53:22 PM »

Well I’m thrilled to report that its sticking now.
That should be one of the perks of being a "Sr. Member," especially one who has helped others as much as you have.
So if it ever unsticks, just ask Mark, Chris, or Michael to log you in.  ;)

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