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PhillyPhotographer

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« on: May 27, 2010, 08:52:06 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2010, 09:20:09 PM »

Michael,

How come when you photograph places that I have tried to photograph, yours come out looking so much classier than mine?

It's very nice indeed. May I ask where you photographed it from? I assume it was from the umpteenth floor of a nearby building.

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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2010, 09:29:00 PM »

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Michael,

How come when you photograph places that I have tried to photograph, yours come out looking so much classier than mine?

It's very nice indeed. May I ask where you photographed it from? I assume it was from the umpteenth floor of a nearby building.

Eric

Thanks Eric.

This was taken from the top of Rockefeller Center and I got lucky with the clouds and light. It was taken on a very cold winter day and since no one was up there security let me stay for a while.

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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2010, 03:49:21 AM »

lack of foreground?

horizon so low in the frame?

composition so symmetrical?

lack of res or contrast, but that may be just the down-res to the Jpeg?
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2010, 05:21:41 AM »

I rather like the composition, despite it being "wrong" in the formulaic sense of the word.  It is like a head and shoulders shot of a familiar friend, except the friend in this case is a building.

Love the b/w conversion, as I always do for your shots.

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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2010, 06:55:43 AM »

Beautiful black and white shot Michael. Rules are made to break, and I love the composition.  It's a classical photograph, and thanks for posting it.
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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2010, 09:08:20 AM »

Lovely image.
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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2010, 10:17:21 AM »

I think I'm going to make myself unpopular, but I agree with Dick here. The light is beautiful, the sky is superb, the tonal range is handled with great skill - but I can't feel comfortable with this composition. When I look at it, I keep wanting to see down. A portrait format, with the horizon line somewhat higher, would seem to suit the subject far better. At least, that's what I would have done in the same situation.

But obviously most people do not feel this way, and the picture does have many merits.

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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2010, 10:20:59 AM »

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I rather like the composition, despite it being "wrong" in the formulaic sense of the word.  It is like a head and shoulders shot of a familiar friend, except the friend in this case is a building.

Love the b/w conversion, as I always do for your shots.

Ed

Thanks Ed, I don't believe in rules when it comes to photography and it has served me well.

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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2010, 10:25:58 AM »

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lack of foreground?

horizon so low in the frame?

composition so symmetrical?

lack of res or contrast, but that may be just the down-res to the Jpeg?


All I can say is so what.

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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2010, 11:37:13 AM »

Matted 16" x 20"

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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2010, 01:06:54 PM »

lack of foreground?

horizon so low in the frame?

composition so symmetrical?

lack of res or contrast, but that may be just the down-res to the Jpeg
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All I can say is so what.

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You learn the basics... then you try to be "artistic" by ignoring the basic rules... but I do not like the pictures.

If you do not want critique, then do not post here.
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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2010, 01:28:01 PM »

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lack of foreground?

horizon so low in the frame?

composition so symmetrical?

lack of res or contrast, but that may be just the down-res to the Jpeg
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You learn the basics... then you try to be "artistic" by ignoring the basic rules... but I do not like the pictures.

If you do not want critique, then do not post here.

I have ZERO problems with critique but your way of thinking is antiquated. If you don't like the photo that's fine, art is about personal taste. But to impose "rules", that's the anal type of attitude that held photography back for a long time.
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2010, 01:38:39 PM »

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I love it. Thanks for sharing...wonderful piece of art!
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2010, 02:20:34 PM »

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I have ZERO problems with critique but your way of thinking is antiquated. If you don't like the photo that's fine, art is about personal taste. But to impose "rules", that's the anal type of attitude that held photography back for a long time.

PhillyPhotographer, you’re out of line.  You asked for critiques, and then you insult someone who provides a critique.  You may disagree with the critique, but there is no call for insults.  Do the right thing and apologize.
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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2010, 02:24:04 PM »

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PhillyPhotographer, you’re out of line.  You asked for critiques, and then you insult someone who provides a critique.  You may disagree with the critique, but there is no call for insults.  Do the right thing and apologize.

My response was not towards a critique. My response was to a set of "rules" period. There is no need for me to apologize.

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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2010, 02:30:07 PM »

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I have ZERO problems with critique but your way of thinking is antiquated. If you don't like the photo that's fine, art is about personal taste. But to impose "rules", that's the anal type of attitude that held photography back for a long time.
My way of thinking might be traditional.
I am glad you think it is "fine" if I do not like the picture, according to my personal taste.
As stated above on this topic, rules are made to be broken... sometimes it results in a pleasing (to someone) picture, and I stated that: "You learn the basics... then you try to be "artistic" by ignoring the basic rules..."

I consider that standards of professional photography have not improved in the digital age, but, if you can market what you produce...
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« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2010, 02:36:05 PM »

To critique by tossing out a set of "rules" to a photographer as accomplished as Philly is pretty insulting in its own right.
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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2010, 03:02:28 PM »

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lack of foreground?

horizon so low in the frame?

composition so symmetrical?
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What a wonderful list of compliments!

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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2010, 03:03:57 PM »

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My response was not towards a critique. My response was to a set of "rules" period. There is no need for me to apologize.

Contrary to your assertion, PhillyPhotographer, you response was to a person and was a personal attack. I can’t imagine where in civilized society, in reaction to a photo critique, it’s appropriate to tell someone that their “thinking is antiquated” and that they have an “anal type of attitude.”  

PhillyPhotographer and DarkPenguin, are you saying that personal insults are perfectly acceptable?   Unbelievable!

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