Epson's canned profiles are only for Epson papers. For the 3800, which I use, their profiles are fine. I expect they would have made at least as good profiles for the 3880, but have no first-hand experience with them. The experience I've had with Ilford's own profiles for its Gold Fibre Silk paper, (which I use all the time and love it), is that their profiles for the Epson 3800 are not good, and I've made my own using my XRite Pulse Elite far better. I have not used Hahn papers so can't comment.