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Did you experience corruption of LR catalogues?
« on: April 23, 2010, 12:20:10 pm »

All,

I read ever so often about people experiencing corruption of the Lightroom catalogue, so far i have not experienced it (knock on wood), but i can imagine the impact it has, if it happens. At the same time, we for many things completely rely on all sorts of databases (a LR Catalog is just a database) in our every day life. In fact i believe i can safely say, we cannot do without.
Therefore this thread: share your experience with corrupted Lightroom catalogues, possible causes, remedies and preventive measures.
Looking forward to your posts.



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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2010, 10:51:07 am »

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All,

I read ever so often about people experiencing corruption of the Lightroom catalogue, so far i have not experienced it (knock on wood), but i can imagine the impact it has, if it happens. At the same time, we for many things completely rely on all sorts of databases (a LR Catalog is just a database) in our every day life. In fact i believe i can safely say, we cannot do without.
Therefore this thread: share your experience with corrupted Lightroom catalogues, possible causes, remedies and preventive measures.
Looking forward to your posts.
I experienced just one corrupted catalogue. It occured just after a Lightroom crash, during import. I just had imported a few 100s RAW files. With the corrupted catalogue, Lightroom crashed 1-2 minutes after launch and during that time, the beachball cursor was spinning (I'm on a Mac). I tried to dump the preference and previews files but nothing changed. I had a backup (in fact I always perform a backup before importing new photos) and restoring it solved the issue. I reimported the new photos and I was in business again.

On a couple of occasions, I had to rebuild previews because some had become corrupted…

HTH
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2010, 03:30:23 am »

Corruption's comparatively rare these days, but it's a database as you said, and stuff happens.  It's usually down to hardware issues - power outages, computer crashing, kernel panics, external hard drive getting disconnected while LR's trying to write to the file, that kind of thing.

Preventative measures - just be sensible.  Keep good incremental backups such as LR's own backup rather than just overwriting the previous backup.  Don't disconnect external hard drives with LR open.  If possible, keep the catalog itself on an internal drive, so that you don't accidentally disconnect it.

Remedies - the repair tool does a pretty good job, but it can't fix everything, so backups are essential.  Sometimes simply copying the catalog to a new location can do the trick, if it's not actually corrupted but giving a false warning.  And in many cases, the corruption is limited to a small area of the catalog - in those cases, if there aren't any backups and the corruption's not too severe, creating a new catalog and using Import from Catalog to pull data over a small chunk at a time can rescue most of the data, but it takes a bit of trial and error to find the corrupted chunk, but it can save the day on occasion.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2010, 03:52:05 pm »

I live in South Florida where momentary power blips are a way of life even on a bright and sunny day.  So I learned a long time ago when an external drive became unreadable after an outage, (presumably the outage occurred when the drive was being written to), to keep all external drives plugged into the battery backup outlet of an uninterrupted power source device.  At least then if the power goes south, you don't risk corrupting the drive.
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2010, 11:18:45 am »

I'm just starting to find my way around LR.

I've just created a catalog of images and, scrolling through them, I find that one has a thin white line running down the left hand side - the entire image is there, the white line is additional.

Another image has a smudge (for want of a better word) at the edge of the frame over a patch of blue sky.

All these images (they're Jpegs) had been processed in Bridge/ACR. I've imported them into LR to create Pdf and web presentations.

1. Anyone else experience corruption of files like this? (I've no experience yet of RAW files in LR)

2. What's the Repair Tool? Where is it found and would it be suitable for this problem?

Thanks.

D.

ps. I note that the ACR main thread has generated 161 topics in quite a few years, whereas the LR main thread has generated 2235 in not near as many. Speaks volumes!
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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2010, 02:24:56 pm »

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I find that one has a thin white line running down the left hand side - the entire image is there, the white line is additional.

Another image has a smudge (for want of a better word) at the edge of the frame over a patch of blue sky.
Can you post screenshots?  And which LR version number too please?
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2010, 03:31:18 am »

Hi Victoria,

It now appears that the flaws were created during the making of the jpegs (the TIFFs are perfect) and not during import into LR.

Apologies for the false alarm.

Thanks for your reply.

D.
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2010, 04:40:38 am »

Quote from: Victoria Bampton
Corruption's comparatively rare these days, but it's a database as you said, and stuff happens.  It's usually down to hardware issues - power outages, computer crashing, kernel panics, external hard drive getting disconnected while LR's trying to write to the file, that kind of thing.

Preventative measures - just be sensible.  Keep good incremental backups such as LR's own backup rather than just overwriting the previous backup.  Don't disconnect external hard drives with LR open.  If possible, keep the catalog itself on an internal drive, so that you don't accidentally disconnect it.

Remedies - the repair tool does a pretty good job, but it can't fix everything, so backups are essential.  Sometimes simply copying the catalog to a new location can do the trick, if it's not actually corrupted but giving a false warning.  And in many cases, the corruption is limited to a small area of the catalog - in those cases, if there aren't any backups and the corruption's not too severe, creating a new catalog and using Import from Catalog to pull data over a small chunk at a time can rescue most of the data, but it takes a bit of trial and error to find the corrupted chunk, but it can save the day on occasion.

Looks like it is indeed rather rare to get a corrupted Lightroom catalogue nowadays. Which is a good sign.

Corruption can happen on any file on a computer system, thus also on the database file (<name>.lrcat) of a Lightroom catalogue.

Victoria, thanks for the heads-up on causes and measures.


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