I thought we were talking about how different cameras work and the differences - real and imaginary - between them.
Jeremy,
I assume now that you have a personal repulsion with me or my posts, because you would have noticed that my last post was in response to others that also have deviated from the main subject (and are free to do so), as it happens normaly in the forum, and as if the subject belongs to you but that is another story. If you targeted me is just because you do not like at all my positions, and it's fine, no problem with that, I did noticed so far that you are very very selective to choose your target. Maybe in a bad day?
But if you are going to hate me, let me at least first explains you a little more about the reasons of my position, then you'll keep going hating me as you want
First of all, in that all topic about this famous DR heresy, english is not my native language and I unfortunately do not have all the vovabulary I would like to express some ideas without mistakes. I just do my best with what I have.
Some of my points have been completly misunderstood and I just blame my lack of precision in my english writing, not the posters. So I will try to clear them here.
The first time I saw the Mark's article, when come to this famous DR differences and 10 meters distance, the first thing I thought in my head was: "he exagerates a little bit no?".
From how much? could not tell, but
yes I could tell there was an exageration in mumbers that I took or understood as a way to express "clear difference". I did agree with clear differences, certainly not in the real numbers as many expressed here.
So why did I blindness defend Mark ?
Because when I started to read the thread posts, I really found that the tone and extreme passion that has emerged from this "mistake" was by far even more disproportionate that the article in itself. I decided to defend Mark's position not even knowing if it was scientificly right or wrong and for how much. Yes I did it! And I'll do it again for sure. The exact numbers seemed to me meaningless in front of the overall tone of many pretentious repplies.
You acused me so to be blind and follow Michael's position even when he's "wrong", but at that time as was defending Mark's article, Michael was not yet involved, and the fact that he joined Mark's position in an editorial letter, then here we go. He could have been Michael or anyone else. My point was that I was in strong disagreement with the tone, sometimes even agressive answers and personal attacks to them, independently if the posters where right or wrong. Actually nobody is more advanced.
If you think that I follow any kind of Michael's statement, let me tell you that you are completly wrong. Michael is not god, (or yes we all are gods) but yes I respect him as a knowledgable profesional and I have good reasons for that, and I certainly respect more his statements than the DoX ones, that's true!
That is perfectly true, I do not like DxO very much as you know, or more exactly, I do not like the way it is used and abused everytime these topics show up. Now, I can of course be in strong disagreement with him, there are actually subjects where I am totally opposed to Michael's thoughts (MFT is one), but
disagreements in a gentleman and constructive way and manners, and the heresy topic IMO had lost completely the measure, it was not a gentleman discution any more, it was not fun. And when you loose fun, it's not good.
So, in my position, I ve been trying to express that the ones who where claiming exageration, where precicely the one's who falled into extreme passion, agresivity and sometimes even depreciation: we want Mark and Michael's head, you know like in the french revolution: let's cut heads...
I did it with cynism? yes I probably did it makes me improve my english...
As I told you, I disagree with Michael a lot as well: His choice for a BMW for example. I would have kept the Lambo for sure!
You are free of course to think what you want and makes you confortable.
Now you can hate me as much as you want, I'll always keep manners and respect with you anyway.
Regards,
Fred.
Ps: I saw Jeremy's film works and they have truly moved me. In fact, photography, art, is the very best terrain where differences are pointless and where we finaly all meet. And that is good indeed.