Need help with my NEC Wide-Gamut not looking as it used to?

[davi russo]

i am a new owner (4 weeks now) of NEC multisync lcd 2690 wuxi2 monitor,
i use it connected via DVI from my macbook pro intel 2 duo 2.33GHz

I calibrate it with my eye one and NEC spectra view software with no problem,
after successfully pulling out some great prints from LR onto an epson 3880 and knowing that i have found a confidence in using this monitor within my workflow.

my question is
something looked off with my monitor, and i was not sure what it was.

the Mac OS (i run 10.6.2) colors seemed to be appearing quite normal looking
and not what i have become used to seeing as in the WIDE gamut space.
everything in my monitor looks quite "natural" and nothing seems to be screaming out,
hey i am in WIDE gamut anymore?

for example,
the hot saturated wide gamut colors of all my program icons in my dock, now have a natural saturated toned down looking sRGB appearance.

i am honesty unsure why?
because since purchasing and using this monitor has

i know from reading from the NEC manual that this 2690 wuxi2 monitor is capable of working/displaying in an sRGB space as well via changing it in the OSD menu,
and to be honest, i don't think i am in that sRGB program,

i still believe i am working in programable Adobe RGB program which is what i have had it in since purchase.
unless i did something by accident that i am unaware of...?

stupid question,
how can i confirm what working monitor program i am in??

i remember reading this,

that being the mac os runs its color system in an color environment untagged, it reacts this way when being seen in a monitor displaying the Wide gamut.

did apple run some software update i might have installed to fix this issue??

if any of you own this same NEC monitor,

please help me if you can,
thank you for any help or wisdom you might be able to shed onto this situation..

[Czornyj]

i am a new owner (4 weeks now) of NEC multisync lcd 2690 wuxi2 monitor,
i use it connected via DVI from my macbook pro intel 2 duo 2.33GHz

I calibrate it with my eye one and NEC spectra view software with no problem,
after successfully pulling out some great prints from LR onto an epson 3880 and knowing that i have found a confidence in using this monitor within my workflow.

my question is
something looked off with my monitor, and i was not sure what it was.

the Mac OS (i run 10.6.2) colors seemed to be appearing quite normal looking
and not what i have become used to seeing as in the WIDE gamut space.
everything in my monitor looks quite "natural" and nothing seems to be screaming out,
hey i am in WIDE gamut anymore?

for example,
the hot saturated wide gamut colors of all my program icons in my dock, now have a natural saturated toned down looking sRGB appearance.

i am honesty unsure why?
because since purchasing and using this monitor has

i know from reading from the NEC manual that this 2690 wuxi2 monitor is capable of working/displaying in an sRGB space as well via changing it in the OSD menu,
and to be honest, i don't think i am in that sRGB program,

i still believe i am working in programable Adobe RGB program which is what i have had it in since purchase.
unless i did something by accident that i am unaware of...?

stupid question,
how can i confirm what working monitor program i am in??

i remember reading this,

that being the mac os runs its color system in an color environment untagged, it reacts this way when being seen in a monitor displaying the Wide gamut.

did apple run some software update i might have installed to fix this issue??

if any of you own this same NEC monitor,

please help me if you can,
thank you for any help or wisdom you might be able to shed onto this situation..

Snow Leo manages the GUI colors, so the icons in dock should look "natural". Set the sRGB as a monitor profile for a while, and the colors should start screaming

[davi russo]

Snow Leo manages the GUI colors, so the icons in dock should look "natural". Set the sRGB as a monitor profile for a while, and the colors should start screaming

thank you for reading and responding my post,
yes i would love knowing that this is the case that Snow Leo manages the GUI colors as you write,

but i have been running Snow Leo since using this NEC monitor, and checked to see that there has been no update?
and since a few days ago, i had been seeing the OS GUI screaming,

so to have it not act that way now, only makes me believe that something has changed/updated since my last calibration either in the OS GUI, my physical monitor, or something i am unaware of?

[WillH]

thank you for reading and responding my post,
yes i would love knowing that this is the case that Snow Leo manages the GUI colors as you write,

but i have been running Snow Leo since using this NEC monitor, and checked to see that there has been no update?
and since a few days ago, i had been seeing the OS GUI screaming,

so to have it not act that way now, only makes me believe that something has changed/updated since my last calibration either in the OS GUI, my physical monitor, or something i am unaware of?

Welcome to the wonderful world of 10.6.... where mysterious things seem to happen for no reason. Desktop color management seems to depend on if you have a secondary monitor connected, order of connecting displays, order of assigning profiles, if you have logged in and then out, phase of the moon and what you had for breakfast.

[davi russo]

Welcome to the wonderful world of 10.6.... where mysterious things seem to happen for no reason. Desktop color management seems to depend on if you have a secondary monitor connected, order of connecting displays, order of assigning profiles, if you have logged in and then out, phase of the moon and what you had for breakfast.

WOW,
this def get a smile out of me, and thank you for being able to do so welcome me to a slight feeling better then.
honestly, this is the first time i have had anything happen that felt alt to what i was adjusting to the new norm of working in a wide gamut.

being that you are someone who works at NEC then, i must ask, is this 10.6 mysterious welcome(s) you mention
related to all CMS or Wide-Gamut specific, or NEC specific,
could you possible lead me to any other board post links that deal with NEC issues very similar  so that i might educate myself more in the matter, or mysteries that i might begin to encounter.

thank you

[terrywyse]

Welcome to the wonderful world of 10.6.... where mysterious things seem to happen for no reason. Desktop color management seems to depend on if you have a secondary monitor connected, order of connecting displays, order of assigning profiles, if you have logged in and then out, phase of the moon and what you had for breakfast.

Same thing is happening here (MacBook Pro, Eizo CG211 external display, OS 10.6.2) where the dock icons, and I assume other GUI elements,  go from color-managed to non-managed in some way......I notice it especially in the "blues" (Mail, Safari and Firefox dock icons) where it goes from an over-saturated purple-ish hue and then back to normal again. Sometimes they will switch when you launch from the dock, other times not.

I haven't looked into moon phases but I do eat fresh ground cooked oatmeal for breakfast on a regular basis.....so there's that.



Regards,
Terry

[WillH]

WOW,
this def get a smile out of me, and thank you for being able to do so welcome me to a slight feeling better then.
honestly, this is the first time i have had anything happen that felt alt to what i was adjusting to the new norm of working in a wide gamut.

being that you are someone who works at NEC then, i must ask, is this 10.6 mysterious welcome(s) you mention
related to all CMS or Wide-Gamut specific, or NEC specific,
could you possible lead me to any other board post links that deal with NEC issues very similar  so that i might educate myself more in the matter, or mysteries that i might begin to encounter.

thank you

You only notice it more on a WG display because there is a larger correction applied to make the WG display match the standard gamut primary/secondary display, or sRGB or whatever it is 10.6 is trying to accomplish. If both displays are standard gamut then you wouldn't really notice much in the way of change. It is not specific to NEC displays for sure.