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« on: January 27, 2010, 05:35:48 am »

do you know if exists  articulated umbrella or parasol which can be fixed on a  tripod ?
 
I have a rain cover Kata but it is not practical with a Tilt/ Shift  lens or  manual focus and also it does not protect from the sun


thank you
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2010, 11:52:52 am »

what about a bogen magic arm with a golf umbrella?

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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2010, 11:57:56 am »

...and don't forget sandbags if you're outdoors, or the wind will blow it away.
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2010, 02:24:48 pm »

a bogen magic arm ? I must look

yes it is for windy and  rainy weather :-)

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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2010, 12:58:59 am »

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...and don't forget sandbags if you're outdoors, or the wind will blow it away.


or, you could get some EMPTY bags, and then collect rocks along the way, so if you backpack, you can just empty them out when you're done with your shot, so you can move on .

just an idea, much lighter than sandbags.


-Dan
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2010, 03:02:10 am »

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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2010, 05:49:57 am »

I've been using an Ozark Trail Chairbrella for many years and it is much larger than the one you noted. Cost about $5 from Wal Mart. They are actually used as shade for stadium chairs, and that is where you will find them (sports section). Supplies have been spotty this past couple of years though and they are hard to find. The last time I found them I bought an entire case - they will not hold up for months and months of use but for $5 you can't complain. I find this one is large enough to not only cover the camera, but also for me to stand underneath to work out of the rain or dripping water from bluffs above, and it will also provide enough area to keep my open camera bag dry that I have within the spread legs of my tripod on the ground. This one is a normal-sized umbrella, not a tiny one like the other unit. Includes the arm and clamp, although I find the clamp a bit too small for Gitzos and so end up duck taping the arm to the tripod...

If anyone finds an online source for the Chairbrella I would love to know about it (the cost should be $5-$10).
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2010, 08:22:50 am »

one of the main problem is to fix it on a Gitzo series 5
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2010, 03:38:54 pm »

A funny story about how I attach my chairbrellas to my tripods. I simply take apart the attached clamp on the lower end of the gooseneck (to make it slimmer) and duck tape it to the upper part of one of my tripod legs (you could do this to a 5 series or just about any tripod). I use the chairbrella not only for light rain, mist, flying snow, and drips from the edges of bluffs overhead, but I also use it as a giant lens shade if I need to since the gooseneck can bend to just about any position. Anyway, I was headed out to be photographed by a photographer from National Geographic magazine one day for a story they were doing that included some interviews with me. I needed to put on a fresh chairbrella since he would be photographing me taking pictures, including my tripod. The only roll of tape I had handy was one that my teenage daughter tossed at me as I ran out the door. It was HOT PINK! I used it anyway, figuring I would always set up the tripod with that leg/tape towards me and away from the photographer. Turns out that every time I got set up he had me turn one way or another and ended up with that darn HOT PINK duck tape pointing right at his camera! Fortunately none of the photos were included in the 14-page feature article in Nat'l Geo (October, 2008 issue), but they did run one of me with the web page version, sans, the pink tape.

The National Geographic photographer, Peter Essick, will have a special showing of his work in Atlanta at the Cantoni Showroom on February 11th...
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2010, 05:03:25 pm »

Just a quick question.  Wouldn't attaching something like an umbrella or large flag to your tripod just create viabration to your exposure? I've always put flags on additional lightstands so the viabration isn't transfered to the camera, even for interior shots. Maybe I'm wrong on this issue?
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2010, 05:34:19 pm »

Re: wind. Yes, if the wind is blowing the umbrella around then that can translate into the tripod and camera. If that happens and I don't feel like I'm able to hold everything still myself (or with camera bag hanging from the tripod), then I will remove the umbrella. Has not happened often though, and usually if the wind is blowing that much the umbrella won't do all that much good anyway since the drops would not be coming from above...
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2010, 07:12:03 pm »

tersnt I want to use it as a giant lens shade too

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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2010, 01:29:09 am »

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I use a Senz XL for this purpose, clamped to my tripod with a Manfrotto magic arm and a few superclamps. The Senz XL is a special umbrella that has the shape of a wing. Therefore it is extremely resistant against wind. When properly positioned it will not vibrate or even push in any direction, even under strong winds. The version I have is silver coated on the outside and deep black on the inside which also makes it a great sunshade to work under. You can find them here: http://www.senzumbrellas.com

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this one seems to be every good  but it is not articulated (I don't know the word) like strollers umbrellas  ?
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2010, 05:06:46 am »

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do you know if exists  articulated umbrella or parasol which can be fixed on a  tripod ?
 
I have a rain cover Kata but it is not practical with a Tilt/ Shift  lens or  manual focus and also it does not protect from the sun


thank you


Hi,

I would recommend that more gear does not help here. My solutions are;
1) With my wife is along she holds a regular umbrella.
2) When alone with such umbrella along, with camera in position I let it sink down on my head and brace it between an arm and body. Before camera in position if light rain, no need for umbrella.
3) If no umbrella and rain, a draw string trash bag or free such hotel laundry bag (or whatever plastic bag one can find) can be made hole in and thread across onto lens and pulled over camera (preferably taped to lens). That works like a charm, dirt cheap and no space in bag...

If have weather sealed DSLR, then you need to worry less than I do. I use above for my MFDB and Shen-Hao 4x5...  As far as my neck, it is less important...  

Regards
Anders
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2010, 08:33:13 am »

Thank you EPd I think I shall go for that solution :  Senz umbrella  (I think black) + magic arm

Anders if you can Tilt / Shift a lens in the wind and rain holding an umbrella (wifes and girl friends ate not allowed)  you are really good  
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2010, 01:37:30 pm »

ok  for Sparkling Silver , I have no experience with umbrellas in general and specially on tripod

thanks again
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