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« on: January 16, 2010, 01:36:24 pm »

What would folks recommend as backup software for Win7 64bit PC?  I am primarily interested in backing up my image files but also need to backup other files and documents, etc.

I have been using Retrospect 7.5 on my old XP machine but it is acting strange on the Win7 machine. Telling me I need administrator privileges when I am logged in as administrator. So I'm not sure I can depend on it.

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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2010, 03:24:45 pm »

I've always used  the free Syncback.  Works for me.

Mike.

P.S. Try right-clicking on the shortcut for Retrospect and click on 'Run as Administrator' if it's available.  I have to run Spybot that way.
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2010, 08:14:36 pm »

On Vista I use and recommend Second Copy. It lets you set up lots of different profiles, with different schedules. It keeps a log of all its activity, and it sends it to me as an email on the rare occasions when it doesn't succeed in copying something (this is usually because of a file being in use).

You can try a free demo version or buy it from centered.com for $29.95.

The website says it is Windows 7 compatible. Since all it does is make copies, it should work.

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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2010, 12:41:56 pm »

Rebit multi pc
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2010, 01:01:27 pm »

Are you sure this isn't a normal UAC thing with windows 7?  Generally UAC will prompt for permissions whenever you need to do any adminy things.

(That said I like syncback se for basic copying (comodo's backup stuff will do this too) or the backup service Mozy.  If you're used to retrospect I suspect neither one is what you want.)

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What would folks recommend as backup software for Win7 64bit PC?  I am primarily interested in backing up my image files but also need to backup other files and documents, etc.

I have been using Retrospect 7.5 on my old XP machine but it is acting strange on the Win7 machine. Telling me I need administrator privileges when I am logged in as administrator. So I'm not sure I can depend on it.

Thanks
Ken
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2010, 10:41:04 pm »

Syncback is nice.  Synctoy (from MS) seems to have issues with really large numbers of files, but otherwise works nicely.

For system backup, the Win 7 system tool is fine.

Another option would be to go with a file manager and Explorer replacement like Directory Opus (I love this program!) which has sync capability and can be scripted, too.
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2010, 11:47:53 pm »

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Another option would be to go with a file manager and Explorer replacement like Directory Opus (I love this program!) which has sync capability and can be scripted, too.

Another vote for Directory Opus. I can't live without it.


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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2010, 03:16:34 am »

I use Genie Timeline on both Win 7 64bit and Win Vista 64bit. Great job at a great price, very easy to use.
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2010, 06:41:18 am »

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Another vote for Directory Opus. I can't live without it.

I sent GPSoft a wish list to help improve using DOPus for image management (including DAM).  They're adding them to their list for consideration - so it's a start :-)

Brilliant piece of software.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2010, 10:24:42 am »

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I sent GPSoft a wish list to help improve using DOPus for image management (including DAM).  They're adding them to their list for consideration - so it's a start :-)

Brilliant piece of software.
It's astonishing to me that they can pack so many features into the program already, and have it actually work! And without bloat. Like Photoshop, I probably use about 15% of the available features, but I can't live without those. I'll look for your improvements in some coming release.
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2010, 11:44:30 am »

You might give the built in backup utility with Win7 a try.  Local and Network drive destinations are now supported.
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2010, 09:28:06 pm »

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You might give the built in backup utility with Win7 a try.  Local and Network drive destinations are now supported.

Joh - do you have any experience with the Win 7 sync center function (ie offline files as a means of automating a backup when you connect a network device or similar)?
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2010, 11:12:54 pm »

I believe this is only supported in a Domain environment, but I'll find out and let you know - in any case Win7 pro is required.  I'm not sure this would be appropriate as a backup mechanism per se.....  

Perhaps a better approach would be dfs, or distributed file system.  Starting with Server 2003 R2. file synchronization was via BITS, the same technology that MS pushes out Windows Update, very bandwidth and demand agile.
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2010, 11:33:13 pm »

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I believe this is only supported in a Domain environment, but I'll find out and let you know - in any case Win7 pro is required.  I'm not sure this would be appropriate as a backup mechanism per se.....  

Perhaps a better approach would be dfs, or distributed file system.  Starting with Server 2003 R2. file synchronization was via BITS, the same technology that MS pushes out Windows Update, very bandwidth and demand agile.

Thanks, I appreciate your insights regarding this.  DFS sounds like an interesting option.  I have systems in place, but a genuinely automated method is of potential interest.
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2010, 03:13:28 am »

I use the free synctoy from Microsoft.   There is now a 64 bit version

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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2010, 07:32:27 am »

I use a program called xxcopy. Not the easiest to configure, but superb in every other regard.

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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2010, 11:05:24 am »

Second Copy is very easy to configure, and is sensibly automated. For example, it can let you know if the drive (or other destination) it is supposed to backup to is off-line, and it will retry the backup as soon as it is on-line. Each backup profile can be either scheduled or manual, and you can always manually invoke an extra instance of a scheduled backup. Couldn't be simpler, IMHO.
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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2010, 09:38:01 am »

I did try Synback and Syntoy, but I had some issues with one of them, I'm not sure who did it but I lost a couple of months of pictures; I had backups on about 5 different harddrives but somewhere the Synback/ Synctoy missed those months and when my regular harddrive died every backup was missing the same picures.
Now I use Alwaysync (the paid version on USB as I went over the 40,000 free limit easily) to have the same pictures and documents on multiple drives. You can use to USB version and move it from computer to computer with different backup jobs. So far so good (but then again, that's how it was with the previous sync programs until I had a problem).

For backup I use the Windows Home Server, and it actually works. It backs up my 2 laptops and the desktop (Win Xp prof, Wind Vista Home, Win 7 64 prof), automatically. The transfer rates are ok, though not great. Not much better than a previous FreeNAS server on the same hardware. However the folder duplication is really nice, better than software RAID as you don't need to rebuild the RAID to get the data, plus you use the space more efficiently. And if you don't need high speeds at all times is better than hardware RAID, because if your RAID controller dies in few years and you don't have RAID1, you need the same controller. (this is for storage, not workstation - I use RAID0 for that)

It actually works, I had to use it to completely restore a Vista laptop as the initial Win 7 uppgrade didn't work. The only thing you have to remember is that WHS is 32bit, so if you want to restore a 64bit system you need the LAN driver in 32bit in order to work.

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« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2010, 11:08:49 am »

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It actually works, I had to use it to completely restore a Vista laptop as the initial Win 7 uppgrade didn't work. The only thing you have to remember is that WHS is 32bit, so if you want to restore a 64bit system you need the LAN driver in 32bit in order to work.


I use Win 7's backup.  It has worked 100% of the time since June '09.
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