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What Kinds of Lighting Accessories are Needed to Sculpt or Paint with Light? Pt.3

Or how I learned to play with glass, vases, plants and other stuff...

I have for years pondered how to render 3 dimensions on to 2 dimensional walls and surfaces, or how to add greater topographical richness to predictable lighted interior landscapes.

Our brain through our eyes and life experience allows us to determine how light will be rendered in our familiar environments and as a result we are rarely surprised when we turn on the corner lamp of our room, or the sun comes shining through the picture window in the library.

But have you noticed that when those rare lighting anomalies occur how we stand up and take notice.  When the sun peaks through thunder clouds while it is raining, giving a stark contrast to what would be a very common landscape.  Or when lightning strikes and lights up very specific portions of a scene.  Or when a point of sunlight hits a glass and renders a mini rainbow in its wake.

Well those are the types of illustrations I find appealing  and attempt to recreate in photography.  I have always been drawn to the symbology of the "light at the end of the tunnel".  That is in its own right is a reflection of my own being and I won't attempt to go in to a self analysis of why that is, but just wish to say, that contrast is important to what I render.

There are many ways to accomplish these effects in photography and some are more extreme than others.  Some have more subtle gradations and others are quite frankly polar opposites and quite stark.  How you use these tools will be based on what "YOU" are attempting to express, because ultimately, it is "YOU" the artist expressing your vision of how you perceive reality.

One of the tools I enjoy employing are those that partially obstruct light to varying degrees.  For example, I often use empty vases or sometimes filed with water or glasses placed in line and shoot light through them on to the surface of the space I am shooting in.  I may use either a honeycomb grid, snoot or barn doors to control the size of the opening from the light source.  I have often used a combination of all three and often more. Moving the light source closer  to the objects will spread more light on to the space and will render the effect with more subtlety. Moving the objects further from them will enhance the effect.  Play around and experiment.  You'll be quite amazed by what can be accomplished.

I have often had accessory stylists order different plants to bring to shoots and aim my light source at them to cast exciting shadows on to the background of the images I am rendering.  Some plants are more transparent than others and light will bleed differently through all of them.  Again the rule of closer and further applies here.

Another technique I have employed that you may find interesting is to shoot through objects that give you a subtle vignetting. It is akin to shooting partially above and below the water line.  Using a mix of opaque or transparent objects will aid in realizing the effect.

In all of the above cases, I recommend a mix of continuous light and flash light sources to add interest to your lighting composition.

What I am attempting to accomplish here is to influence how you approach light. Your interpretation and employment of tools around you, that can be used to accomplish exciting and unusual effects is another objective.

Again, I have only scratched the surface here, but hopefully have sparked some ideas for you to explore.

In the next installment, I will discuss other modifiers and how to mix it up…

http://www.benjaminkanarekblog.com/2010/01...h-light-part-3/

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You've made exactly one post that isn't an ad for your blog...enough already.
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You've made exactly one post that isn't an ad for your blog...enough already.

Oh, come on.

I rather have more post from this man, ad for blog or not, than more post
from you. He is talking about photography. You are for the most part talking about physics.

You have more than 5000 replies, and IMO, none of them are of interest.

And this forum should IMO be more about photography than physics and pixelpeeping.

And you too have an ad for your blog.


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Jonathan Wienke

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Oh, come on.

I rather have more post from this man, ad for blog or not, than more post
from you. He is talking about photography. You are for the most part talking about physics.

I've made thousands of posts here answering people's questions and discussing non-technical aspects of photography, if you actually bothered to look. I've been posting more about math and physics stuff recently because I'm working on an image processing software program, and discussions on those areas are of particular interest to me at the moment. I have no issue with someone putting a URL in their signature; most posters here do, and that's fine. Nor do I have an issue with someone posting a link to something on their site from time to time that is pertinent to the discussion in a thread or of general interest to forum members. What I find annoying is the OP spamming the forums with nearly all (7 of 8) of his posts having no purpose other than to drive traffic to his web site.
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There is a difference between plain spam and overenthusiastic promotion Jonathan.

Frankly, I am glad he did post even though it was for leading more persons to his blog. If not, I would not have found it which is a shame. There is really interesting stuff on it and I enjoyed reading all of it. I know how much work this is. Besides a whole bunch of boring commercial images I don't have a lot of images to show for in a blog, neither can I seem to find the time to share. I really appreciate the efforts others make to share. Rather write something nice to them to encourage them to continue, instead of the stream of negativity that so many people seem to dish out so easily.

The Blog is appreciated Benjamin! Welcome aboard and maybe, go easy on the promotion but please do start intriguing topics about photography (I like the one about editing, I am still thinking about an answer ).
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To Jonathan,

I have read many of your posts and always appreciate them. I don't find them self-promotional.  I approach photography primarily from the artistic view and am new to digital this year after decades shooting film.  I try to get what I want "in camera" so it opens with default settings pretty much how I want it (for me, the less time behind the computer the better althought fine adjustments to color and white balance are welcome) but I am interested in how technical issues might affect my images.  

However, I must disagree with the criticism of Benjamin's post.  Just look at the gorgeous quality of that image!!!  I am landscaper but am branching out to new areas like travel and people photography, and seeing such a creative, dramatic and beautiful shot can only be inspirational.  You're right, it does want me go see his blog!  Such talent should be welcome here.

Maybe he shouldn't hit all forums with the same topic.  Still, I am glad he did hit this more technically oriented forum as I might not have seen it otherwise.

Lacking a full studio set-up, and access to models, and his years at the top of his industry, I probably will never be able to create images like his, but his suggestions can certainly help me improve what I am doing.

By the way, Benjamin, how about taking a shot like one you posted and giving a concrete description of both your creative thinking as to the effect you wanted, and a technical description of the method (gear, lighting positions, what types of translucent objects you framed with etc) you used.  This might give all of us some ideas we can work with.

Guy
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There is a difference between plain spam and overenthusiastic promotion Jonathan.

Point taken. At least what he's advertising is about photography, and reasonably well-done, as opposed to crap about erectile dysfunction cures or imitation Rolexes or whatever. But the percentage of his posts that are blatant self-promotion is way beyond the bounds of good taste or forum etiquette. Compare his posts to those of Steve Hendrix, Thierry Hagenauer, James Russell, Mark Tucker, etc. All of them have overtly commercial backgrounds, either as high-level professional shooters or manufacturer sales reps, but yet their postings manage to be informative, germane to the topic of discussion, and interesting without resorting to the constant, blatant "come check out my web site to see how awesome I (or the products I sell) am/are" hype factor.

It's not so much what he's doing, but how he's doing it that I find inappropriate. It's the difference between contributing to the forums versus simply exploiting them for personal ego-gratification or financial gain.
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Point taken. At least what he's advertising is about photography, and reasonably well-done, as opposed to crap about erectile dysfunction cures or imitation Rolexes or whatever. But the percentage of his posts that are blatant self-promotion is way beyond the bounds of good taste or forum etiquette. Compare his posts to those of Steve Hendrix, Thierry Hagenauer, James Russell, Mark Tucker, etc. All of them have overtly commercial backgrounds, either as high-level professional shooters or manufacturer sales reps, but yet their postings manage to be informative, germane to the topic of discussion, and interesting without resorting to the constant, blatant "come check out my web site to see how awesome I (or the products I sell) am/are" hype factor.

It's not so much what he's doing, but how he's doing it that I find inappropriate. It's the difference between contributing to the forums versus simply exploiting them for personal ego-gratification or financial gain.


Hi guys...If you have any questions regarding erectile dysfunction or lighting, religion or entomology and metaphysics, please feel free to do so.

Best Wishes
Ben :-)

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There is a difference between plain spam and overenthusiastic promotion Jonathan.

Frankly, I am glad he did post even though it was for leading more persons to his blog. If not, I would not have found it which is a shame. There is really interesting stuff on it and I enjoyed reading all of it. I know how much work this is. Besides a whole bunch of boring commercial images I don't have a lot of images to show for in a blog, neither can I seem to find the time to share. I really appreciate the efforts others make to share. Rather write something nice to them to encourage them to continue, instead of the stream of negativity that so many people seem to dish out so easily.

The Blog is appreciated Benjamin! Welcome aboard and maybe, go easy on the promotion but please do start intriguing topics about photography (I like the one about editing, I am still thinking about an answer ).


Thanks man...and yes it is a lot of work between doing this, finding work, making work and sharing my life for posterity, it is a ton of stuff on my plate....oh, what f stop is the best for erectile dysfunction?

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.oh, what f stop is the best for erectile dysfunction?

f/64, to ensure a good tight fit. You're welcome.
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f/64, to ensure a good tight fit. You're welcome.

Will f32 do? I no longer have my Arca Swiss 8x10 camera?

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Will f32 do? I no longer have my Arca Swiss 8x10 camera?

It depends on whether f <> 50 milliseconds...
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Hey- isn't he the same dude who posts same types of stuff over on Fred Miranda?
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Isn't this all rather bad manners? I understood this to be Michael's website...

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Benjamin,
Thanks for posting - I think your work is great and I enjoyed the read through some of your blog.  Please keep posting here or there - I'm interested to see more lighting info from you.    And as far as the barking forum guard dogs, just ignore them  - their bark is worse than their bite.
Eric
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Benjamin,
Thanks for posting - I think your work is great and I enjoyed the read through some of your blog.  Please keep posting here or there - I'm interested to see more lighting info from you.    And as far as the barking forum guard dogs, just ignore them  - their bark is worse than their bite.
Eric


Thanks so much Eric.

Ben  

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Thanks so much Eric.

Ben  

Great image - love the mood and shadow play in this one
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ROFLMAO ......

Guys - you made my day ...


And to the OP: Awesome images! /me likes ....
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