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hjscm

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« on: December 08, 2009, 06:03:23 pm »

So i bought the sample roll of lyve.  was wondering what printer settings people are using on a 7900.  should i use matte or photo black.  also should i change any other settings like drying time, papaer feed etc.  lastly what profile is everyone using.

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« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2009, 07:21:43 pm »

Quite a few people here are. If you do a search in the archives you should find some posts. I'm on a Canon and use "Canvas Matte 2" for the media type which uses matte ink.

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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2009, 07:48:31 pm »

Lyve is one of the thicker canvases.  The roll I have is about 0.55mm thick.  In order to avoid head swipes on my 9880, in Print->Page Setup->Paper Config I would need to set the Paper Thickness setting to 0.6 or 0.7mm to avoid head swipes on the high parts of the weave.  Printed a target for Lyve yesterday, noticed just now that I have minor head swipes on the peaks from using the 0.6mm setting I use for Fredrix and Daguerre.

BC has specific media settings and downloadable profiles on their site.  Betcha anything they print dark.  I think matte black is the best choice.
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2009, 08:16:59 pm »

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BC has specific media settings and downloadable profiles on their site.  Betcha anything they print dark.  I think matte black is the best choice.

Yes, have had good results with Matte ink.

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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2009, 10:24:32 am »

thanks for the replies.  i will print a target today.   just hate printing targets with mac and snow leopard.
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2009, 11:36:48 am »

Bill T.  Are you just setting the paper thickness and then leaving the platen gap to auto or also changing that to wider?
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2009, 04:42:25 pm »

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Bill T.  Are you just setting the paper thickness and then leaving the platen gap to auto or also changing that to wider?

"Wider."

Don't actually what the difference between "Auto" and the more specific labels like "Wider" etc might be.  Can somebody explain?
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2009, 07:22:08 pm »

BC says to set the platen gap to wider with Lyve.  I never really paid attention to the media thickness setting so am also unsure about how these interact.
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2009, 10:09:45 pm »

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BC says to set the platen gap to wider with Lyve.  I never really paid attention to the media thickness setting so am also unsure about how these interact.

I'm using Lyve with an Epson 9900.  The platten is set at "wider" which is the widest.  The head is at times hitting the lower right corner of the paper and jamming  It didn't do that with Chromata canvas.  Need to play with it.

I must say, Breathing Color treats you as family.  They're wonderful!!!

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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2009, 11:11:28 pm »

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The head is at times hitting the lower right corner of the paper and jamming  It didn't do that with Chromata canvas.  Need to play with it.
On my 9880 that happens if I leave a length of canvas unrolled in the media path for a while.  Humidity variations sometimes cause the exposed end of the canvas to curl enough to hit the carriage.  Solution is to advance 2 inches before use, or roll the canvas back up onto the roll between uses.

Must say that BC's quality control has come a long way in the last two years.  Definitely the cleanest, best wound, most seed-free and lint-free canvas I have seen recently.  They are definitely sensitive to feedback from forums like these and it shows.
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2009, 04:04:42 am »

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BC says to set the platen gap to wider with Lyve.  I never really paid attention to the media thickness setting so am also unsure about how these interact.
IIRC, it is possible to measure the paper thickness in LFP Remote panel 2 in Custom paper setup, it prints a test pattern which contains pairs of vertical lines and one has to tell which of these align best. I didn't try it yet on Lyve though.

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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2009, 08:43:29 am »

Still no answer to the difference between setting a media thickness and or setting the platen gap.   I have a support email in to Epson with a question.
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2009, 10:53:19 am »

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Still no answer to the difference between setting a media thickness and or setting the platen gap.   I have a support email in to Epson with a question.

I have the same question.  Be sure to post the answer!
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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2009, 05:37:12 pm »

Answer from Epson: "They both adjust the platen. Setting the paper thickness will adjust the platen accordingly to the papers thickness. Adjusting the platen directly will alter it accordingly, meaning narrow, standard, wide, or wider.  Adjusting the paper thickness will adjust the platen gap accordingly to the thickness setting that you input. The issue is that a lot of times people don't know the specs of the paper and do not know that paper thickness settings to input. Adjusting the platen gap setting directly is more of a general setting. Paper thickness setting is more detailed. Software will overwrite hardware."
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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2009, 12:14:32 am »

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Answer from Epson: "They both adjust the platen. Setting the paper thickness will adjust the platen accordingly to the papers thickness. Adjusting the platen directly will alter it accordingly, meaning narrow, standard, wide, or wider.  Adjusting the paper thickness will adjust the platen gap accordingly to the thickness setting that you input. The issue is that a lot of times people don't know the specs of the paper and do not know that paper thickness settings to input. Adjusting the platen gap setting directly is more of a general setting. Paper thickness setting is more detailed. Software will overwrite hardware."
Well guess i have been lucky.  i have been setting paper to 6mm and platen to wider.  i have had no problems so far.  i made a profile but i think i want to send my targets to breathing color and have them create a profile and see how mine compares.  i really like the paper with the glamour 2 full gloss.  i can't wait till glamour 3 comes out.  i also made a profile with drying time per head set at .7 and paper feed at +12.  can't tell to much difference.

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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2009, 06:00:15 am »

I have a good bit of experience with Lyve and this is what we found. After the first 2 headstrikes we changed the platen to widest. Had the third strike and started to dig a little deeper. What we found at least on our machine(7900) was that the vacumn had too much pressure and with the force it was inserting on the canvas it was turning the edge up just enough to cause the head strike. We reduced the vacumn to a lighter setting and have not had one since. One note and I think everyone should do this is to release the canvas roll when you are done printing for the day. If not that first 3" can have an unusable crease. We have only had this issue with Lyve. I think its a softer more pliable media which has a lot to do with this.
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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2009, 07:26:11 pm »

Thanks Dan,  I printed the xrite target but i think i might print theirs and then send it to them to see.  i ordered the trial roll and liked it so i ordered the 24" roll today.

chris
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