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« on: November 02, 2009, 05:16:26 pm »

Header should be Gatorboard not foamboard!
I am starting to print more canvas panos in sizes 24 X 48 to 30 X 72. Most of these are not gallery wraps so I will need a backboard to glue (use mm) them up on. I have been getting prices on Gatorboard in 4' X 8' sheets and it is all special order with a 12 sheet min. plus freight. Best cost quoted was $125.00 per sheet. I am here in Pa. and would like to know if anyone here on the east coast has a supplier that I can purchase less then $1600 worth of this at a time. Any suggestions on any other product that may work just as good or better. I can get 1/4" hardboard real cheap but not sure about any issues regarding gluing canvas to it.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2009, 06:50:55 pm »

Dan,
Try these guys. Straight shooters, they deliver and I don't think they have minimums like you encountered.

http://www.harborsales.net/
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2009, 06:59:26 pm »

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Dan,
Try these guys. Straight shooters, they deliver and I don't think they have minimums like you encountered.

http://www.harborsales.net/
Thank you Randy I will give them a call.
Just placed an order for a half dozen sheets to try out.
Thanks for the link.
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2009, 07:18:00 pm »

These guys are in NY State somewhere, though I think they drop ship from around the country.  They still a bit high, but not quite at ripoff levels...

http://store.foamboardsource.com/gatorfoams--gatorfoam.html

The standard case is 15 pieces, it's only about 3" thick.  The really sticker is that this stuff can only ship via truck freight, and usually the lowest quotes for minimum loads and distances are around $100, but they don't charge you for the forklift stabs.

I buy my 4x8's from my local Regal Piedmont dealer for $49 for 3/16" or $79 for 1/2".  They are happy to sell me 1 piece for that amount.  Like many local suppliers they have free delivery to outlying communities a few times a week.

Your 30 x 72's could probably should use 1/2", depends on how stiff the frame is.

And of course there's always Masonite.  Regal has an interesting sample of construction board called "Precision Board" which is very hard but light contruction foamboard about 1" thick, looks like it could be useful from really big pieces but have never tried it.
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2009, 07:52:45 pm »

Bill,
I just ordered 6 sheets to try. 6 - 3/16" and 6 - 1/2" to use for the bigger jobs.
I have a cabinetry business with all the large saws so cutting up is not a problem.
What about the hardboard? It is cheap and I can pick it up at my plywood distributor. What about gluing canvas to that stuff. It is more paper then wood but I am thinking about wood movement here. Do not want to have expansion and contraction problems. Any experience with this stuff.

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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2009, 11:36:26 pm »

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Bill,
I just ordered 6 sheets to try. 6 - 3/16" and 6 - 1/2" to use for the bigger jobs.
I have a cabinetry business with all the large saws so cutting up is not a problem.
What about the hardboard? It is cheap and I can pick it up at my plywood distributor. What about gluing canvas to that stuff. It is more paper then wood but I am thinking about wood movement here. Do not want to have expansion and contraction problems. Any experience with this stuff.
I'm sure Gator will saw nicely, but you can easily cut it with an Xacto knife or utility knife.  4 or 5 swipes with a small Xacto #11 blade, getting through the canvas layer is actually the hardest part.  I prefer the large size #2 Xacto knife with the 1/2" diameter tube, with a #2 blade.  I use a heavy, hand-picked piece of right angle iron as a straight edge for cutting the bigger pieces.  Gator is not really all that tough, it's just that it is has this uncanny ability to stay flat and the surface will not dent from trivial impacts.  BTW you have to be careful, Gator can develop razor sharp edges if you partially cut it and then snap the last little bit.

I have looked at hardboard, have no idea what it would do over time.  It looks poorly sealed somehow, like whatever was holding it together is likely to migrate but who really knows.  Melamine laminated MDF and particle board are also possibilities, museums build displays out of that stuff with graphics mounted with solvent based adhesives like contact cements.  These are all really heavy materials that would require heavy duty frame hanging techniques for anything of size.

Have had no dimensional problems with Gator or Masonite.  Glued canvas shrinks on the Gator about 1/32" per 3 or 4 feet compared to its unglued size.
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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2009, 04:00:21 am »

Thanks Bill.
I have a 60" Speed-Mat cutter for mat cutting which has the razor cutter on the right hand side which should cut the gatorboard with a pass or two. The large sheets will not fit but we can break them down with the panel saw or a long straight edge and razor. We have all kinds of mdf here and I think I will stay away from all these because of the weight plus I do not want to get into finishing the backs. Being the finish guy here at my business I know full well the complications of using a wood byproduct and then only finishing one side. A real no no.
Now what to use the 2 cases of foamboard with the sticky back that I bought last year to put canvas on. I have a few 17 X 17 that are in the gallery that stayed together. I also have 3 or 4 30" canvas pieces that are seperating from the canvas. Its an easy fix as the canvas pulls right off. I will cut gatorfoam for these and do it properly.
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2009, 03:20:11 pm »

I just got a 4x6, 1" thick sample of the Precision Board.  Cuts very clean. Its light.  Says it takes up to 200 degrees.  Would be kind of brittle though it seems in thinner width's.  Looks like it would hold glue very well.  Just found out it's way too expensive.  $250 for a 4x8x3/4" sheet.
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