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« on: October 23, 2009, 10:41:33 am »

OK - we have raw files from 10 folks now.  I will distribute the raw files tonight and send out the download links.

Raw files received from 10 of 12
AndrewKulin
Brammers
EduPerez
EricM
Jeff Philips
Panopeeper
awolfe
Sigi
Tim Gray
nniko


Participant List: 12 out of 12 slots filled
Tim Gray
Panopeeper
PeterAit
nniko
AndrewKulin
Brammers
Sigi
Jeff Philips
awolfe
EricM
EduPerez
Christopher


The Process
  • signup - complete
  • upload links provided - complete
  • Everyone upload 1 RAW file - 9 out of 12
  • Upload your own take on your own RAW file.
  • Everyone receives a link for 3 RAW files - not started
  • Everyone processes all 3 RAW files and uploads a full resolution jpeg at full quality, and also at 1280x1024
  • I will present links for the rendered versions of the files - small, as well as full size.
  • I will present links for all the RAW files.






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I remember reading something that Brooks Jensen wrote, something about him wondering when we'll get to the point where we sell raw files to other photographers for them to print.  All the benefits to the learner, yet none of the risks to the negative.  I think I'd have a tough time pulling off "Moonrise, Hernandez" from a scan of the negative.  

Buy you know what?  I'd love to try.  

I'm curious if on some image that I feel is just "not quite there", if someone else could pull it off.  I'm also curious if I could pull off the same job on an image that someone else has.

Here is what I'm proposing:  

People sign up to participate on this thread.

Everyone that participates will contribute 1 raw file that they are willing to put in the public domain (but still, no cats please) along with their own development of that raw file.

Everyone that participates will be assigned 2 raw files to process.

The photographer's original rendering of the image along with the 2 other renderings will be gathered and posted in the same post once they are all collected and the exchange has finished.

I have server space (VPS) I would be willing to use to host and exchange the raw data (unless the volumes became too large - then we'd have to find something else)

I expect the timeline would be a month or more from end to end.

Some people have hangup about working other people's negatives/files.  Think of it more as a workshop with peer review!
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2009, 10:44:35 am »

Sounds like fun.  I'd be interested.  Files would be from 1DS MK 3
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2009, 11:13:08 am »

A Canon 40D here.
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2009, 11:54:11 am »

Quote from: awolfe
I remember reading something that Brooks Jensen wrote, something about him wondering when we'll get to the point where we sell raw files to other photographers for them to print.  All the benefits to the learner, yet none of the risks to the negative.  I think I'd have a tough time pulling off "Moonrise, Hernandez" from a scan of the negative.

It sounds like a good idea in theory but I wonder if it would actually work. For one thing, I don't have the time to process my own photos let alone other people's. Second, I think there's sort of a catch-22: this idea is most appealing for photos I think have a lot of potential, but I would be hesitant to put such photos in the public domain.

Anyway, I'd probably give it a try if you can get some people involved. What would be particularly interesting, I think, is to see the different "takes" that we have on processing the same RAW image.
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2009, 11:58:15 am »

I like it!  Count me in too.  (Nikon D70, D200 or D300, depending on how old an image I pick.)

It would be very interesting to see how others would process the same photo differently from me.

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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2009, 04:02:13 pm »

I'm intrigued by this.  A 40D here.

Andrew
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2009, 04:16:27 pm »

This sounds like fun!  Would there be any limitiations on our PP - would we be looking to get close to the original, to maintain the style of the original, or could we do whatever we wanted?

Sign me up please
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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2009, 02:54:59 am »

Sounds like fun - I am in

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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2009, 09:27:48 am »

I'm in with a D700 or D300...
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2009, 01:04:47 pm »

I've updated above with the participant list so far.

PeterAit - I agree completely with what you say re: image quality/willingness to give up rights.  I think it might be fun to do it with more complex terms to allow everyone to protect/retain IP if this works out well - but wanted to start simple.

We're at 9 participants right now.  I plan to cut it off at 12 on the first run.  

Does everyone have an FTP client they're comfortable using?

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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2009, 01:30:54 pm »

What the heck. Somebody's got to be the worst PP-er in the list, so count me in, too.   

I do have an ftp client that works fine for me.

EricM




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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2009, 01:44:21 pm »

Yes, I'm happy with FTP
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2009, 03:17:46 am »

Looks like fun, add me to the list, please.
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2009, 12:42:59 pm »

I can deal with FTP.

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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2009, 01:34:26 pm »

Quote from: nniko
I can deal with FTP.

Lisa


Well I could only do it on my notebook screen, so colors might not be 100% like I would like them, but I would be interested if you don't mind that.
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« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2009, 08:56:17 am »

We have a full set of participants now.

I'll be PM'ing everyone FTP login information over the next day or two - we'll give it a week to collect everyone's files, then I'll write a quick program to anonymously shuffle them and we'll get them passed out!

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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2009, 11:12:35 am »

I'm glad to see my name at the list!

Is there any guideline / advice / suggestion about which RAW file I must send? Any one I find suitable?
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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2009, 11:20:42 am »

I would suggest:

  • Anything you want
  • Something that is going to be open to numerous interpretations - tonal ambiguity?  multiple cropping options?
  • Anything that you want to see how someone else would do it.
  • Something that is not going to be offensive or potentially illegal in the processor's jurisdiction (not the place for your Maplethorpe self portrait)

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« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2009, 12:00:23 pm »

awolfe, I'd actually be interested in trying my hand at processing *more* than two other participants' raw files.  Something more like six, maybe.  What do the rest of you think?

Or maybe we could each be assigned two (per your original plan), but have the other nine available so we can try out any of those we find interesting if we feel like doing more of them, and a way to communicate our final results back to their original owners like our assigned two.  What do you think?

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« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2009, 01:03:32 pm »

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awolfe, I'd actually be interested in trying my hand at processing *more* than two other participants' raw files.  Something more like six, maybe.  What do the rest of you think?

Or maybe we could each be assigned two (per your original plan), but have the other nine available so we can try out any of those we find interesting if we feel like doing more of them, and a way to communicate our final results back to their original owners like our assigned two.  What do you think?

Lisa
 I'll second that but also say I don't want to create a lot of work for awolfe.  Having additional files available to those that want to process them is a great idea.  I agree - keep it at 2 files to participate but make the files available to those that want to do (or see) more.  Whatever allows more knowlege base to filter out while keeeping the work-load for awolfe as small as possible...

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