Topic: Leica announces a new collection (Read 13180 times)

Alex MacPherson · « **on:** August 31, 2009, 03:58:22 pm »

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0908/09083101leicavideo.asp

I saw this on dpreview. Live webcast of the release of a collection of next generation cameras.

I saw a dslr in the video.... it has me salivating!

ndevlin · « **Reply #1 on:** August 31, 2009, 05:27:20 pm »

It's the S2, along with what many are presuming will be the M9, given the auspicious date.

- N.

ps. yes, salivating is an appropriate response. As is the purchase of lottery tickets

pschefz · « **Reply #2 on:** August 31, 2009, 06:30:16 pm »

the video actually shows the back of a yet unreleased leica m...very briefly....you can see the "iso" button on the back next to the screen....the m8 does not have one....there is also a "step" on the top left that the m8 does not have...
9/9/09 at 9am.....i don't think they will show the m8.3....

a FF m9 ruins my financial plans for the rest of the year.....

K.C. · « **Reply #3 on:** August 31, 2009, 11:05:49 pm »

Quote from: pschefz

FF m9 ruins my financial plans for the rest of the year.....

By being your entire financial plan for the year ?

Christopher · « **Reply #4 on:** September 01, 2009, 01:21:45 am »

We won't see the S2 at that event at all. Or not as main product. I guess more something like m9 + R10 or M9 + something smaller.

Alex MacPherson · « **Reply #5 on:** September 01, 2009, 02:01:46 am »

Perhaps a Leica GH-1? Micro 4/3s camera. They made a statement that there was no R10 but
there would be something that would allow you to use R lenses on it.

Christopher · « **Reply #6 on:** September 01, 2009, 02:25:54 am »

Quote from: Dolce Moda Photography

Perhaps a Leica GH-1? Micro 4/3s camera. They made a statement that there was no R10 but
there would be something that would allow you to use R lenses on it.

Well the also didn't really officially revoke the statement that a FF M9 is impossible.

BernardLanguillier · « **Reply #7 on:** September 01, 2009, 10:12:18 pm »

Whatever the specs, how could a product announced on 9/9/9 not be an M9?

Cheers,
Bernard

Christopher · « **Reply #8 on:** September 02, 2009, 12:26:41 am »

Quote from: BernardLanguillier

Whatever the specs, how could a product announced on 9/9/9 not be an M9?

Cheers,
Bernard

Well I think we all more or less expect that a M9 "has to be" FF ^^, so if it should be a 1.1 crop or even worse 1.3 again, well we know how it is going to end.

BernardLanguillier · « **Reply #9 on:** September 02, 2009, 12:55:00 am »

Quote from: Christopher

Well I think we all more or less expect that a M9 "has to be" FF ^^, so if it should be a 1.1 crop or even worse 1.3 again, well we know how it is going to end.

Probably a B&W FF camera then...

Cheers,
Bernard

Christopher · « **Reply #10 on:** September 02, 2009, 01:19:15 am »

Quote from: BernardLanguillier

Probably a B&W FF camera then...

Cheers,
Bernard

Wouldn't mind that at all as long it is FF ;-)

BernardLanguillier · « **Reply #11 on:** September 02, 2009, 06:30:26 am »

Quote from: Christopher

Wouldn't mind that at all as long it is FF ;-)

Going back to black (&W) would be the smartest thing to do.

Cheers,
Bernard

Christopher · « **Reply #12 on:** September 02, 2009, 07:19:53 am »

Quote from: BernardLanguillier

Going back to black (&W) would be the smartest thing to do.

Cheers,
Bernard

Wouldn't that be the suprice of the century, Canon going back to black and white with the 1DsMk4

BJL · « **Reply #13 on:** September 05, 2009, 07:27:01 pm »

M9 details are out, unless this PDF brochure is a very elaborate forgery:
http://litpixel.com/m9_brochure_english_RZ_low.1.pdf
And it is indeed 18MP in 36x24mm format using Kodak's previous generation 6.8 micron pixels, rather than 24MP with the new generation 6 micron pixels as I was guessing.
DNG, ISO 80-2500 and a 2.5" LCD are a few other highlights.

P.S. It is color, not B&W!

telyt · « **Reply #14 on:** September 05, 2009, 10:15:32 pm »

Quote from: BJL

... it is indeed 18MP in 36x24mm format using Kodak's previous generation 6.8 micron pixels, rather than 24MP with the new generation 6 micron pixels as I was guessing.

It uses several new technologies developed by Kodak for Leica's S2. If the DMR is any indication, I'd expect the M9's 18MP CCD with no AA filter will be about equivalent to a 27MP CMOS with AA filter.

BJL · « **Reply #15 on:** September 07, 2009, 04:39:15 pm »

Quote from: telyt

It uses several new technologies developed by Kodak for Leica's S2. If the DMR is any indication, I'd expect the M9's 18MP CCD with no AA filter will be about equivalent to a 27MP CMOS with AA filter.

In this post
http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....st&p=308894
I summarize everything I can find in Leica's own statements about new technology, none of which is newer than the M8 as far as I can tell and some of which goes back at least to the Kodak sensor of the Olympus E-1. The absence of an AA filter could be worthwhile for those who rarely encounter moiré and/or are willing to handle it with post-processing when necessary.

telyt · « **Reply #16 on:** September 07, 2009, 04:58:55 pm »

Quote from: BJL

In this post
http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....st&p=308894
I summarize everything I can find in Leica's own statements about new technology, none of which is newer than the M8 as far as I can tell and some of which goes back at least to the Kodak sensor of the Olympus E-1. The absence of an AA filter could be worthwhile for those who rarely encounter moiré and/or are willing to handle it with post-processing when necessary.

See my response in the other thread.

narikin · « **Reply #17 on:** September 08, 2009, 01:28:33 pm »

no AA filter and 6.8 micron pixels? then there's one word for it:

MOIRE

I could repeat it, but man, are you going to be reading a lot about that in the near future....

pschefz · « **Reply #18 on:** September 08, 2009, 04:47:34 pm »

Quote from: narikin

no AA filter and 6.8 micron pixels? then there's one word for it:

MOIRE

I could repeat it, but man, are you going to be reading a lot about that in the near future....

i guess just as much moire as with a P30 or P45....both of which have no AA and 6.8 pixel size....i am glad i don't have the p65 which has even smaller pixels....

BJL · « **Reply #19 on:** September 08, 2009, 04:53:58 pm »

Quote from: pschefz

i guess just as much moire as with a P30 or P45....both of which have no AA and 6.8 pixel size....i am glad i don't have the p65 which has even smaller pixels....

Agreed on the other 6.8 micron no AA MF sensors, but smaller pixels reduce the problem of moiré,
- partly by moving the fineness of the patterns that produce moiré to a smaller scale, at which there is less contrast delivered by the lens ("the lens as AA filter")
- partly because the moiré is on a finer scale in a print of any given size, and so less visible.

A question: for those of us who are not into photographing fabrics with fine, high contrast patterns, how often in moiré likely to be encountered?

P. S. Thanks Michael: while I was writing, you posted with an answer to my question!

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