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« on: July 29, 2009, 08:24:36 pm »

DPreview has announced UK pricing for the S2

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Leica S2 Black   £15,996
Leica S2-P Black *   £19,092
SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/70 ASPH   £3,096
SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/70 ASPH CS   £4,025
APO-TELE-ELMAR-S 1:3.5/180   £4,541
APO-TELE-ELMAR-S 1:3.5/180 CS   £5,160
APO-MACRO-SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/120   £4,541
APO-MACRO-SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/120 CS   £5,160
SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/35 ASPH   £3,612
SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/35 ASPH CS   £4,231
Multifunction handgrip S   £851
Professional battery charger S   £258


Though this line makes me wonder " that puts it squarely into the apparently troubled medium format sector"
any thoughts on what US pricing will be?
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2009, 08:30:02 pm »

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DPreview has announced UK pricing for the S2

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Leica S2 Black   £15,996
Leica S2-P Black *   £19,092
SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/70 ASPH   £3,096
SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/70 ASPH CS   £4,025
APO-TELE-ELMAR-S 1:3.5/180   £4,541
APO-TELE-ELMAR-S 1:3.5/180 CS   £5,160
APO-MACRO-SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/120   £4,541
APO-MACRO-SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/120 CS   £5,160
SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/35 ASPH   £3,612
SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/35 ASPH CS   £4,231
Multifunction handgrip S   £851
Professional battery charger S   £258


Though this line makes me wonder " that puts it squarely into the apparently troubled medium format sector"
any thoughts on what US pricing will be?
am

Oh Dear , Poor Brits Screwed again!

Des

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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2009, 08:43:40 pm »

So for comparison sake
how much is a H3DII-31 in the UK, can someone fill me in please.
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2009, 09:29:27 pm »

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So for comparison sake
how much is a H3DII-31 in the UK, can someone fill me in please.
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robert white UK has them for 9995 GBP
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2009, 10:28:31 pm »

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DPreview has announced UK pricing for the S2

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Leica S2 Black   £15,996
Leica S2-P Black *   £19,092
SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/70 ASPH   £3,096
SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/70 ASPH CS   £4,025
APO-TELE-ELMAR-S 1:3.5/180   £4,541
APO-TELE-ELMAR-S 1:3.5/180 CS   £5,160
APO-MACRO-SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/120   £4,541
APO-MACRO-SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/120 CS   £5,160
SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/35 ASPH   £3,612
SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/35 ASPH CS   £4,231
Multifunction handgrip S   £851
Professional battery charger S   £258


Though this line makes me wonder " that puts it squarely into the apparently troubled medium format sector"
any thoughts on what US pricing will be?
am

$26,191 at current exchange rates for the cheaper body, and $5069 for the cheaper 70mm. This is the camera that will kill Leica.
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2009, 10:40:46 pm »

Remember, these prices are 15% because they include the dreaded V(alue) A(dded) T(ax), and yet 25% more on the Let's Fuck the British Because We Can philosophy, which seems to attach to all photographic pricing.

Still, it's at the very high end of what I could have imagined for a bunch of prime lenses...
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2009, 10:48:25 pm »

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DPreview has announced UK pricing for the S2

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Leica S2 Black   £15,996
Leica S2-P Black *   £19,092
SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/70 ASPH   £3,096
SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/70 ASPH CS   £4,025
APO-TELE-ELMAR-S 1:3.5/180   £4,541
APO-TELE-ELMAR-S 1:3.5/180 CS   £5,160
APO-MACRO-SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/120   £4,541
APO-MACRO-SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/120 CS   £5,160
SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/35 ASPH   £3,612
SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/35 ASPH CS   £4,231
Multifunction handgrip S   £851
Professional battery charger S   £258


Though this line makes me wonder " that puts it squarely into the apparently troubled medium format sector"
any thoughts on what US pricing will be?
am

Uh . . . what?  I don't know anyone, and I mean anyone, who would spend that kind of money on an inflexible system.    I'm sure it is amazing, best lenses ever, etc, but come on.  In USD, this is a $50k - $70k system.  Makes a P65+ and a H2 system the value leader, not to mention the H3D 39, 50 and 60.

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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2009, 10:54:55 pm »

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So for comparison sake
how much is a H3DII-31 in the UK, can someone fill me in please.
am

I think the more relevant comparison is the Phase One Phamiya P45+(39mp), which apparently goes for around UK 18,500 pounds exclusive of 15% VAT. The Leica S2 is around UK 16,500 exclusive of VAT. The former camera body is a dinosaur that was was first designed around when??? The Leica is not your uncle's AFD. It is a brand new system designed for digital from the ground up. Let's see how it compares in real world shooting and image quality. I really do hope it meets the design goals and is a success. Whatever I may think about Leica in recent years, I for one am rooting for any company that reaches way deep into its pockets to think outside the box and make a big bet in this space.

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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2009, 10:57:11 pm »

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Professional battery charger S   £258

I wonder how much more the Amateur battery charger will be?
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2009, 11:06:49 pm »

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I think the more relevant comparison is the Phase One Phamiya P45+(39mp), which apparently goes for around UK 18,500 pounds exclusive of 15% VAT. The Leica S2 is around UK 16,500 exclusive of VAT. The former camera body is a dinosaur that was was first designed around when??? The Leica is not your uncle's AFD. It is a brand new system designed for digital from the ground up. Let's see how it compares in real world shooting and image quality. I really do hope it meets the design goals and is a success. Whatever I may think about Leica in recent years, I for one am rooting for any company that reaches way deep into its pockets to think outside the box and make a big bet in this space.


Root all you want, but are you making a big bet of your own in this space and buying one? Personally, I'll take the two inside the box for the price of the one outside the box.
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2009, 11:36:18 pm »

Quote from: hcubell
I think the more relevant comparison is the Phase One Phamiya P45+(39mp), which apparently goes for around UK 18,500 pounds exclusive of 15% VAT. The Leica S2 is around UK 16,500 exclusive of VAT. The former camera body is a dinosaur that was was first designed around when??? The Leica is not your uncle's AFD. It is a brand new system designed for digital from the ground up. Let's see how it compares in real world shooting and image quality. I really do hope it meets the design goals and is a success. Whatever I may think about Leica in recent years, I for one am rooting for any company that reaches way deep into its pockets to think outside the box and make a big bet in this space.

Robert White has a Hassy H3DII with a 39mp back and 80mm lens for the kit price of 13395 UK pounds, not including 1400 or so in VAT, so a bit less than 15,000 pounds for camera, 39mp back and 80mm lens. Of course, it's only a Hassy.

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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2009, 12:00:59 am »

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SUMMARIT-S 1:2.5/70 ASPH   £3,096

That's their 50mm right? Translated in Yen, that means 470.000 Yen...

I paid less for my never used second hand Nikkor 300 f2.8 VR than the price of their most basic lens of the S2 system...  Somebody must have smoked the carpet big time.

I am of course not mentioning the fact that this lens only opens at 2.5... which makes the joke all the more amusing.

I bet you a good belgian beer that nobody will be able to tell the different on an A2 print between a D3x+Nikkor AF-S 1.4 and the S2+Summarit-S 1:2.5/80 at f2.8.

Cheers,
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2009, 12:10:04 am »

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Robert White has a Hassy H3DII with a 39mp back and 80mm lens for the kit price of 13395 UK pounds, not including 1400 or so in VAT, so a bit less than 15,000 pounds for camera, 39mp back and 80mm lens. Of course, it's only a Hassy.

JC

Well Leica just killed my dream. I mean sorry that is just to much. I haven't seen German prices yet, but the UK prices look horrible. With a full kit I think I would get close to around 55k US, which is way out of line. Well you could get a P65 system for that kind of money. Or if you want to get something cheaper, there are many options. P40, P45, H3DII with 39,50 or I think eventhe 60 when it comes will be cheaper. I mean I don't even want to know what the 24, 30 TSE and the zoom will costs when they come out. The problem I see is that you have to invest a LOT of money into a system which could be dead again in 1-2 years if Leica goad upside down.
 
Another Problem I see is Canon, Nikon and Sony, Sorry you can get a top end DSLR System for around 10000. Will the s2 be better ? Probably. Will it be worth 40000 more ?? I really don't think so.
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2009, 12:54:19 am »

For those on this side of the pond, here's the official USA pricing info:

Bodies: (Oct 09)
S2 Camera Body - $22,995
S2-P Body with Sapphire LCD Cover Glass and Platinum Service Package - $27,995

Accessories:
Multi Function Handgrip S - $1,295 (Jan 10)
Battery Charger (spare/extra) - $399

Service Packages for Bodies:
S-Body Premium Service - $1,495
S-Body Platinum Service - $3,795

Lenses:
Summarit-S 70mm f/2.5 ASPH - $4,495 (Oct 09)
Summarit-S 70mm f/2.5 ASPH CS - $5,995 (Nov 09)
APO-Tele-Elmar-S 180mm f/3.5 - $6,495 (Oct 09)
APO-Tele-Elmar-S 180mm f/3.5 CS - $7,495 (Nov 09)
APO-Macro-Summarit-S 120mm f/2.5 - $6,495 (Nov 09)
APO-Macro-Summarit-S 120mm f/2.5 - $7,495 (Nov 09)
Summarit-S 35mm f/2.5 ASPH - $5,295 (Dec 09)
Summarit-S 35mm f/2.5 ASPH CS - $5,995 (Dec 09)

Service Packages for Lenses:
S-Lens Premium Service - $495
S-Lens Platium Service - $995

Bodies and lenses come with a transferable (first for Leica) warranty, whcih can be extended through purchase of one of the service packages. We are still waiting on some more details to come.

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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2009, 12:59:47 am »

Well the whole price list is ridiculous. But I have to laugh at the $400 battery charger. I mean come on, I thought the Nikon chargers were over-priced. Do they expect us to believe the Leica name means something for battery chargers? ROTFLMAO
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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2009, 01:00:26 am »

wow. Or should I say WTF ?

Leica really managed to give us a DSLR typ system for 50,000. I would love to see some ISO 800 and 1600 of such a expensive system. ;-)

Oh well Look what I can buy for the same money and I get a lens, too. H3DII-50

And I just saw it NO Wideangle lens till December, or probably more beginning of 2010....
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2009, 01:28:17 am »

I really don't understand,
what happened to all the
"It will be priced very competitively???"

you can buy a H3D2-31 for $17,000
same S2 kit (cheaper body + 70 CS) is $29,000

Price difference of $12,000.00

Honestly, I'm lost for words.
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(David thank you for posting the USD prices.)
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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2009, 01:32:10 am »

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wow. Or should I say WTF ?

Leica really managed to give us a DSLR typ system for 50,000. I would love to see some ISO 800 and 1600 of such a expensive system. ;-)

Oh well Look what I can buy for the same money and I get a lens, too. H3DII-50

And I just saw it NO Wideangle lens till December, or probably more beginning of 2010....
I assume that the quality at high ISO wouldn't be better than from Phase One or Hasselblad. Anyway that camera will be bought from enough nerds and Leica will make money out of this, if the AF is good enough.
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2009, 01:56:05 am »

has anyone at leica looked at DMF prices lately?
the charger is a gem.....so is the grip.....canon sells it's completely overpriced grip with wifi and built in server for 900....but maybe that one does not include "multifunction".....
what is amazingly crazy is that the platinum service (!) package sells for more then a whole 5DII kit....you would think they could at least roll that into a 23000 BODY!
i will stop comparing it to a 5DII but a camera at twice the price of competing, existing and proven systems (which, btw aren't selling like hotcakes either right now....) is a little strange....

well i am sure the profit margin of the m9 will make up for the losses.....

i really love leica and just finally got some R lenses for the canon and love them......and m9 really sounds nice (anyone have any details on that?) but i was really hoping that leica would be realistic about the price of the S2......
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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2009, 02:06:20 am »

Wow!

I think the used prices just went up on the leica DMR!  Just kidding but I hope they do well with the S2.  

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