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Mr. Capp

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« on: June 02, 2009, 01:29:52 pm »

So, I've just printed some sample sheets of Hahnemuhle's newest photo rag baryta. I'll go out on a limb and say it's the nicest thing I've ever seen. It's got a better surface than the fine art Baryta,  which I think had too much tooth. This rag is similar to Museo's silver rag but a bit brighter, and no gloss differential. It just looks and feels amazing. Yes, it's expensive which is where my question comes in.

Does anyone have good suggestions for a proofing paper that may be similar. I'm thinking with just going with the Epson Lustre which is just way more blue of a base but it's cheap and pulls a similar print. I've been using Ilford GFS which is actually similar in tone and the profiles print similar. But I really can't stand my experiences with GFS, the scratching and Gloss differential are a pain. I've noticed I need to add some yellow to the Epson to get it to be similar to the ilford or photo rag.

Of course I'd love to make every print with the photo rag baryta but I'm no Ponzi scheme artist.

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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2009, 01:35:22 am »

The only paper that I've seen that is really close is Museo Silver but it's around the same price. Otherwise you need to find a paper that has a similar surface and make a very good profile for it.

Something like premium Lustre or HP Pro Satin come to mind.
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2009, 12:18:13 pm »

Out of curiosity, are you using it to print color, black and white, or both? Seems most people are using it for black and white, but I'm not sure why one versus the other.
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2009, 06:08:36 pm »

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Out of curiosity, are you using it to print color, black and white, or both? Seems most people are using it for black and white, but I'm not sure why one versus the other.

I'm printing color on it at the moment, I would suspect B&W would be just as great. BTW I'm printing on a 3800.
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2009, 01:44:07 am »

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Out of curiosity, are you using it to print color, black and white, or both? Seems most people are using it for black and white, but I'm not sure why one versus the other.

Not sure if the question is directed at me or not.

Yes I print in both and have very good results in colour. I have a review on my site with this paper and some profiles in the review. All around a great paper that prints so well but also has a surface coating and texture that reduces the risk of what problems inkjets have like gloss differential and bronzing. There are media like Ilford and Harman that have shinier surfaces but some problems come with that.
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2009, 12:48:46 pm »

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Not sure if the question is directed at me or not.

Yes I print in both and have very good results in colour. I have a review on my site with this paper and some profiles in the review. All around a great paper that prints so well but also has a surface coating and texture that reduces the risk of what problems inkjets have like gloss differential and bronzing. There are media like Ilford and Harman that have shinier surfaces but some problems come with that.

Neil, how do you find the PR Baryta compares to their PR Pearl? The gloss differential on the Pearl totally turns me off. I tried print a portrait on it the other day, and on a black dress, spots of a dark blue pattern were totally separated in viewing the print at an angle. Viewing the print straight on, the blue areas were very dark, and melded right in to the dress, at an angle, the gloss differential jumped off the page. Very weird effect. I believe I was using the Fine Art Pearl setting on the Z3100, with GE covering everything. Not sure if a different setting would work better or what. Maybe no GE, or GE on econo? Without a solution, I've ditched the Pearl. It would look amateur in a gallery.
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2009, 01:20:31 pm »

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Neil, how do you find the PR Baryta compares to their PR Pearl? The gloss differential on the Pearl totally turns me off. I tried print a portrait on it the other day, and on a black dress, spots of a dark blue pattern were totally separated in viewing the print at an angle. Viewing the print straight on, the blue areas were very dark, and melded right in to the dress, at an angle, the gloss differential jumped off the page. Very weird effect. I believe I was using the Fine Art Pearl setting on the Z3100, with GE covering everything. Not sure if a different setting would work better or what. Maybe no GE, or GE on econo? Without a solution, I've ditched the Pearl. It would look amateur in a gallery.



Pearl is very funky. It gives a solorised look to some photos which is an interesting effect. Surprises though are not welcome in a daily workflow so it's not a paper I would use for gallery work, unless it is that peculiar look it has.
PhotoRag Baryta is not at all like it, and it is a no surprises paper.
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2009, 01:30:05 pm »

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Pearl is very funky. It gives a solorised look to some photos which is an interesting effect. Surprises though are not welcome in a daily workflow so it's not a paper I would use for gallery work, unless it is that peculiar look it has.
PhotoRag Baryta is not at all like it, and it is a no surprises paper.

I'm with Neil on that. I know many people like the Pearl, but the PhotoRag Baryta is in a different league. I've printed a lot of people's work on it, B&W and color, since it came out, and it's great. Now, if they could just minimize the buggers in the paper manufacture...
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2009, 02:37:56 pm »

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Now, if they could just minimize the buggers in the paper manufacture...
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Tyler, What paper manufacturing defects have you experienced with HN Photo Rag Baryta?

Thanks

Mark
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