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« Reply #120 on: May 23, 2009, 01:50:48 pm »

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Photoshop definitely ignores the monitor profile. The case should be adressed to Adobe or Apple.
(actually your dual monitor display setup should be okay as Firefox and Safari are doing it right...)

 no, not "Monitor-RGB". That means that all RGB-Data is displayed without CM (directly sent to the Monitor-RGB).
Set your Monitor Profile as Proof-Profile as you would do it with any paper profile (and set it to rel. colormetric).
Does that work? (please take my spinned image from above for all tests...)

Ok, now I'm confused. This is what the proofing menu looks like:

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« Reply #121 on: May 23, 2009, 02:01:06 pm »

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Ok, now I'm confused. This is what the proofing menu looks like:
go to "custom" (headmost entry).
Device: your monitor profile (in my image it's: "CH_fuji_matt_0309")
render. int.: relative colourmetric
BPC: activate (useless here but anyway)
(viewing options at the bottom: deactivate both)
[attachment=13927:proof.jpg]
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« Reply #122 on: May 23, 2009, 02:28:20 pm »

So the problem is still there?
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« Reply #123 on: May 23, 2009, 03:44:01 pm »

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go to "custom" (headmost entry).
Device: your monitor profile (in my image it's: "CH_fuji_matt_0309")
render. int.: relative colourmetric
BPC: activate (useless here but anyway)
(viewing options at the bottom: deactivate both)
[attachment=13927:proof.jpg]

Ok, thanks, haven't tried that before.

If I proof with my monitor profile and toggle it, I see no change in the Photoshop window.
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« Reply #124 on: May 23, 2009, 03:52:13 pm »

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Ok, thanks, haven't tried that before.

If I proof with my monitor profile and toggle it, I see no change in the Photoshop window.

Right, but this time you might try a different engine in the colorpreferences.

It seems very likely that the ACE engine has an issue with your monitor profile. We already know that the AppleCMM doesn't. I believe that the CMM selection is supported for the proofing preview...

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« Reply #125 on: May 23, 2009, 03:58:08 pm »

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Right, but this time you might try a different engine in the colorpreferences.

I tried both ACE and CMM and don't see any change in the document window when I toggle proofing.
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« Reply #126 on: May 23, 2009, 04:09:27 pm »

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I tried both ACE and CMM and don't see any change in the document window when I toggle proofing.

So the purple spinned image remains purple?????
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« Reply #127 on: May 23, 2009, 04:10:20 pm »

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I tried both ACE and CMM and don't see any change in the document window when I toggle proofing.
opgr and me are on the same path.
Please load this profile: (ColorSpin) http://tinyurl.com/q9h6oz
set it as proof profile but this time do not set convert "relative colormetric" but set "preserve RGB numbers" (or whatever it is called in English...)

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« Reply #128 on: May 23, 2009, 04:10:41 pm »

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So the purple spinned image remains purple?????

What if you use thomas modified monitorprofile as the proofing space?

Edit: ignore, thomas was ahead of me...
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« Reply #129 on: May 23, 2009, 04:14:21 pm »

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What if you use thomas modified monitorprofile as the proofing space?

Edit: ignore, thomas was ahead of me...
no! Try it!
I linked the spin icc profile... not my modified monitor profile. But this is worth a try!

and make a pause in the large format forum as you don't have anything you can see your large images on by now.
stay tuned here so that we can fix this *shit* today :-)
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« Reply #130 on: May 23, 2009, 04:17:42 pm »

opgr: do you think it's worth trying to install AdobeCMM? Does PS routes the pipeline to AdobeCMM or still ACE?
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« Reply #131 on: May 23, 2009, 04:32:05 pm »

Sorry, didn't know I was still to use the spin profiled doc. Will try again and report back...
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« Reply #132 on: May 23, 2009, 04:44:30 pm »

ok, I opened the spin file in Photoshop and selected my monitor profile and toggled proofing on and off and there is no change - it looked normal at all times. I did this with both ACE and AMM selected in colour settings.

Then I loaded the colorspin.icc profile and toggled the proofing. Still looked normal at all times.
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« Reply #133 on: May 23, 2009, 04:51:32 pm »

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ok, I opened the spin file in Photoshop and selected my monitor profile and toggled proofing on and off and there is no change - it looked normal at all times. I did this with both ACE and AMM selected in colour settings.
so it looked purple in all modes, yes?!

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Then I loaded the colorspin.icc profile and toggled the proofing. Still looked normal at all times.
so still purple?!
did you set the proof settings with the spin profile to "relative colormetric" or did you activate "preserve RGB numbers"?
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« Reply #134 on: May 23, 2009, 05:02:32 pm »

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so still purple?!
did you set the proof settings with the spin profile to "relative colormetric" or did you activate "preserve RGB numbers"?

"preserve RGB numbers" was de-selected and relative colormetric was selected.

It never looked purple once.

I was begining to think something had gone wrong with the spin file but then I opened the 'save for web' window and it was purple in the left frame.
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« Reply #135 on: May 23, 2009, 05:04:08 pm »

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It never looked purple once.
I was begining to think something had gone wrong with the spin file but then I opened the 'save for web' window and it was purple in the left frame.
what? so in Photoshop's regular image window it's looking natural and not purple???
The title of this thread is a direct hit....
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« Reply #136 on: May 23, 2009, 05:12:13 pm »

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what? so in Photoshop's regular image window it's looking natural and not purple???
The title of this thread is a direct hit....

Exactly :S
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« Reply #137 on: May 23, 2009, 05:18:51 pm »

Just so you can see it with your own eyes:

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« Reply #138 on: May 23, 2009, 05:26:43 pm »

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Just so you can see it with your own eyes:
thanks  
And it's exactly the same if you set sRGB as monitor profile (or my third modified monitor profile) for both the laptop-LCD and the external monitor?
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« Reply #139 on: May 23, 2009, 05:29:32 pm »

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thanks  
And it's exactly the same if you set sRGB as monitor profile (or my third modified monitor profile) for both the laptop-LCD and the external monitor?

Yes.

And if I set the proofing setup to something like "Windows RGB" and toggle the proofing, then it does switch between purple and normal (purple with 'proof colours' ON.)
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