Topic: Sinar M and multishot (Read 7825 times)

henrikfoto · « **Reply #20 on:** May 16, 2009, 08:17:17 pm »

Thanks to you both!!
After the update to 2.2 for Sinar M it all seems to work perfect.
Now I have full connection and get 4 and 16-shots in the display!

Norway won the European song contest today, and our national day starts in just a few hours.. need some sleep.

Happy May the 17th to all of you!!

Henrik

ThierryH · « **Reply #21 on:** May 16, 2009, 08:55:51 pm »

Happy National Day!

Best regards,
Thierry

Quote from: henrikfoto

Thanks to you both!!
After the update to 2.2 for Sinar M it all seems to work perfect.
Now I have full connection and get 4 and 16-shots in the display!

Norway won the European song contest today, and our national day starts in just a few hours.. need some sleep.

Happy May the 17th to all of you!!

Henrik

henrikfoto · « **Reply #22 on:** May 17, 2009, 04:00:08 am »

I just did some test-shots with 16 exposures. Wish I started this a long time ago!
It is sooo far ahead of all the newer singel-shot back that it´s hard to understand!!!

The Phase P65+ is not even close!!!

Dustbak · « **Reply #23 on:** May 17, 2009, 04:28:49 am »

These are your first experiences with a multishot back?

ThierryH · « **Reply #24 on:** May 17, 2009, 06:45:03 am »

... and whom do you tell this?!

It is years I am trying to bring this point across the board, without people even seeming to notice or care that there is a better IQ (visible with "naked" eyes) possible: no, 1-shot modes, whatever the pixel density/count, does not even come close, even in 4-shot mode with the right lenses.

Best regards,
Thierry

Quote from: henrikfoto

I just did some test-shots with 16 exposures. Wish I started this a long time ago!
It is sooo far ahead of all the newer singel-shot back that it´s hard to understand!!!

The Phase P65+ is not even close!!!

Dustbak · « **Reply #25 on:** May 17, 2009, 06:54:33 am »

Yeah Thierry but it is always so nice to see/hear the amazement of people that see their first multishot image

henrikfoto · « **Reply #26 on:** May 17, 2009, 10:02:07 am »

Quote from: Dustbak

These are your first experiences with a multishot back?

Yes. I have tried everything from the best scanning-backs to the new Phase sensor. None of them even come close to what I see now from my first tests with the 54H.
And still I am only using a small tripod and normal light in my house.

I am very much looking forward to testing it in the studio next week.

I have always heard people tell me how much extra problems this makes and that it is almost impossible to keep it steady. That is not true at all.
This is just amazing !!!!

Henrik

Dustbak · « **Reply #27 on:** May 17, 2009, 10:18:54 am »

Well, doing 16-shot does pose some extra challenges. Personally I did find it somewhat easier to do 4-shot (same quality less resolution) and have had more than once difficulties getting great results with 16. Which for a great part is due to the fact my studio is on the 3rd floor of a building with wooden floors and wooden construction! If you do and get it right it is awesome. The most minimal movement or alteration in light will deliver (slight) stairstepping or worse. Now, with the 39MS I don't miss the 16-shot so much. It would be nice if it was there and I would definitely use it if I need to.

I also love shooting higher ISO (if you can consider ISO400 higher) with multishot. It gives you such nice clean shadows with lovely transitions and grainlike structure. Some will now think about their D3 but that is just not the same

ThierryH · « **Reply #28 on:** May 17, 2009, 10:30:09 am »

Henrik,

to all asking me, I have always said and still say that the Sinarback 54 H does wonders: it is one of the most fantastic back, IMO equal to 8x10" film in multishot mode concerning resolution of details (with the Digital HR lenses), but with also IMO much more tonal values, better transitions and better modularity.

But as said Dustback, stability is critical for optimum results: better having the studio on the groundfloor, better not having a road passing near by, better having a very stable stand, better not using AC while shooting, etc ...

Enjoy it.

Best regards,
Thierry

Quote from: henrikfoto

Yes. I have tried everything from the best scanning-backs to the new Phase sensor. None of them even come close to what I see now from my first tests with the 54H.
And still I am only using a small tripod and normal light in my house.

I am very much looking forward to testing it in the studio next week.

I have always heard people tell me how much extra problems this makes and that it is almost impossible to keep it steady. That is not true at all.
This is just amazing !!!!

Henrik

BobDavid · « **Reply #29 on:** May 17, 2009, 01:48:05 pm »

I use a CF39 MS mated with a Schnedier Digitar for fine art repro -- awesome setup.

BJNY · « **Reply #30 on:** May 17, 2009, 02:09:25 pm »

BobDavid,

May I ask how the Schneider electronic shutter is powered?

Billy

BobDavid · « **Reply #31 on:** May 17, 2009, 07:40:27 pm »

Quote from: BJNY

BobDavid,

May I ask how the Schneider electronic shutter is powered?

Billy

Schneider power supply.

BJNY · « **Reply #32 on:** May 17, 2009, 08:00:45 pm »

Drat!
I was hoping the Schneider electronic shutter was being powered by the digital back via Firewire bus-power from the computer.

Thierry,
Isn't this the scenario with eVolution multi-shot back powering the Sinar CMV lenses?

Thanks,
Billy

ThierryH · « **Reply #33 on:** May 17, 2009, 09:02:48 pm »

Hi Billy,

Basically yes, although if you connect as well a LC shuter for Live View you might need to use an external 12V power supply, since not enough then to power all.

Best regards,
Thierry

Quote from: BJNY

Thierry,
Isn't this the scenario with eVolution multi-shot back powering the Sinar CMV lenses?

Thanks,
Billy

BJNY · « **Reply #34 on:** May 17, 2009, 09:20:40 pm »

Thank you for verifying, Thierry.

So nice of you to continue answering Sinar-related questions.

My best,
Billy

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