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Shirley Bracken

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« on: April 26, 2009, 07:32:26 pm »

I am getting cIose to a decision on a printer to reproduce my watercoIor paintings on rag WC paper.  I have been researching the Epson Pro4880.  Does anyone have any experience with this.  AII information wiII be heIpfuI. I am not pIanning to do photo prints.  Thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2009, 11:05:39 pm »

I use a 9880 for photos on canvas, but also to make prints of my wife's pastels.  Works very on all counts, the pastel prints are very accurate on both matte art papers and even canvas.  Under glass it is almost impossible to tell a print from an original, we have to be meticulous about labeling prints as such.

The real trick is to get good image files of the originals.  I shoot usually shoot 4 to 6 shot stitches of the original art outdoors around mid morning or mid afternoon with the sun at 45 degrees to the print.  The result is a file around 50 megapixels that prints at a few hundred camera pixels per inch on the print, even big prints.  105mm lens to minimize keystone.  In Photoshop I straighten out any remaining keystone with Free Transform.

I use a taped up lens hood with the minimum possible opening, this prevents flare in the lens.  I need to do that because the art receives bounce light from nearby (neutral colored) concrete which is bright enough to flare the lens.  Make sure your print doesn't get bounce light from colored objects.  For whatever reason shooting art in outdoor light never worked well with slide film, but I think it is preferable to flash or tungsten for digital.

If you are new to stitching, the free MicrosoftICE program does an outstanding job with very little learning curve, but if you want to maintain 16 bit color you should use something like PTGui or AutoPano etc.  But 8 bit color is really OK for art because you make almost no adjustments in post processing.

But I'm talking about 30 x 40 art here, for prints up to about 18 x 24 a single 10 or 12mp shot would be adequate, no stitching needed for that size.

I'm sure you know the 4880 can only contain a matte black or photo black cartridge at any time, and that there's an ink-wasting penalty for changing between the two.  You would use matte black cartridge for watercolor and other matte papers.

Edit...also, I believe the Pro model comes with RIP software.  In the case of Watercolor paper, you probably would be better off spending the extra money for the Pro version for a good calibration puck which will allow you to make you own printer profiles well tuned to your particular manufacturing sample of the printer.  There is already a watercolor media setting available in the Epson printer driver, that sets among other things the general way the ink will be put down.  The printer profile fine tunes this.  Kinda sorta, that's the jist of it anyway.  The RIP would be of more use if you were trying to use unusual media, but for the commonly available printing papers wouldn't have much to offer other than ganged-up printing.
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2009, 12:45:48 am »

I have the 4880 and it's great for art prints up to 17" wide. Rolls can get kind of wonky some times so sheets tend to work better (rolls on the wider printer are much easier).

I would recommend checking out Hahnemuhle Museum Etching paper. When I've reproduced watercolors for artists they have tended to like that paper the best.
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2009, 07:47:48 am »

biII t. thank you for aII that information.  Are you speaking of a bayonet for shieIding my camera Iense.  I have one but never had occasion to use it.  I am stepping up to a more professionaI reIm.  I hate to be the dumbist one in cIass but I have to start somewhere.  I wiII reseach what you have toId me and get back with additionaI questions.  One thing, do you face your picture to be photographed away from the sun.

Yes, new to stitching.  I'II research that too.  

Most of my paintings are 22"X30"  but I intend to reduce them to haIf size... depends on what seIIs I guess.  I wouId Iike to see your wife' pasteIs, does she have a web site.  Do you have one.  Is it OK to add it to the signature here.

Matte bIack...check.

How does the burst modeI differ.  I do intend to get the Pro.

sesshin, thank you.  Is yours a Pro modeI.  Are you gIad you got that size printer.  How is the cIogging probIem.

PIease taIk to me about paper.  I had intended to just use the same paper I paint on.  140# coId press paper.  Where do I buy buIk paper aIready the right size.  If I use my paper, I wiII have to hand tear it.  

I appreciate your time and I wiII be back with more questions.  Thanks again.


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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2009, 08:26:10 am »

Are aII pigment ink printers archivaI.  I know the difference between pigment and dyes but this is a question I can't find an answer to.  Are there different grades of pigment ink.
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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2009, 02:19:21 pm »

All 4880s are considered "pro" models. There is a standard model and a RIP model. I have the standard and don't really feel I need a RIP for low-volume fine art printing.

As far as paper, it needs to be coated with an inkjet receptive layer before it's printable. That's why I prefer to use something like Museum Etching which has a nice, watercolor-like texture with the coating already on it. You could also use a product like InkAid to coat the watercolor paper you have

http://www.inkaid1.com/Products/Products.html

but I think you would be much more satisfied using a paper specifically manufactured for inkjet printing. Blacks are blacker, color more saturated, etc..
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