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kevs

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« on: March 19, 2009, 08:16:57 pm »

I'm doing single sided printing on 2400, Epson enhanced matte (presentation.)
The dry mounting fees to make these double sided are a lot.
Does anyone know a economical dry mounter/cutter they can recommend?

Also, for those doing double sided printing what paper is treating you well? thanks.

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Ernst Dinkla

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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2009, 04:51:13 am »

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I'm doing single sided printing on 2400, Epson enhanced matte (presentation.)
The dry mounting fees to make these double sided are a lot.
Does anyone know a economical dry mounter/cutter they can recommend?

Also, for those doing double sided printing what paper is treating you well? thanks.

Comparable to the coating quality of EEM, the Intelicoat Magic Presentation Grade Paper C2S DMPG190, 190 gsm, does a good job on my Z3100.
Thick enough for good registration on both sides and also opaque eneough for most jobs. Good for dummy books, presentation, etc.
Like with EEM it will yellow when the OBAs are burned out by direct sunlight. Of course it doesn't get the weight of two laminated sheets of EEM.
But I got the impression that Intelicoat ceased production of that paper, my distributor bought the remaining stock her in The Netherlands, could be that there's more at other places.
I also use a 100 gsm paper from another source but that's not opaque enough for most jobs and the coating holds less ink.



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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2009, 07:43:49 am »

Calumet have a matte double side in their Brilliant line. Decent, kinda on the thin side but good for almost everything but portfolio work. For that I use Hahnemühle Photo Rag Duo.
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2009, 12:54:21 pm »

thanks looking for something which would have stiff weight like two enhanced mattes together.

also Dry mounting is still good is someone know somehone in US who can do it economically
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2009, 09:45:51 am »

I don't know where you live, but I found a used dry mount press on Craigslist for $160. There's no  way I could afford a new one, but I'm OK with $160. I'm very glad to have it and I use it all the time.
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2009, 01:56:35 pm »

Tom, thanks, can I hire you?
Joking.
I would never want to do it. Too draining. Which is, of course, why I can't find anyone to do it very economically.

I would first put up with printing double sided, which is more tiring that single sided, but less expensive.
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2009, 02:58:51 pm »

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Tom, thanks, can I hire you?
Joking.
I would never want to do it. Too draining. Which is, of course, why I can't find anyone to do it very economically.

I would first put up with printing double sided, which is more tiring that single sided, but less expensive.


The heaviest dual sided paper will be 300 gsm and what I have seen they all belong to the art papers, rag etc. Don't think that will reduce costs.



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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2009, 12:41:45 am »

kevs,

Here's a link to a note I posted a couple of months ago. It was about how I do the very thing you're talking about.

http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....c=31080&hl=

   (my entry is about three quarters of the way down)

A couple of notes: First, no single sheet of double-sided, no matter how heavy, will feel like two thinner sheets mounted together. It won't be nearly as rigid. In fact, the thinner your original two sheets, the more rigid the final product.

Second, you could look into spray adhesives. Yes, they are nasty and, no, I don't know about what they do to print longevity or appearance.

Also, I know there are some double sided adhesive sheets on the market for just this sort of application. It's been a while since I used them myself, but I recall that they worked well, cost a bit more than good old dry mount tissue,were easy to use, and did a good job. I found mine at a local art supply store.

Having said all that, I am using some Moab Lasal double-sided matte for a little portfolio hand-out. The finish is a bit smoother than the Epson Enhanced Matte, and it doesn't feel as "scuffable". I think the stock is slightly heavier and the opacity is good. I'm only printing on one side, though, so I can only guess about how well it handles images showing through the back.

Finally, I agree with tomrock. I think you'd have a pretty easy time finding a used dry mount press if you decided to stick with that option. You don't need a very sophisticated one. With these light papers, I never see any marks if I need to mount large pieces in "bites".

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