Topic: But Can it Survive an Elephant? (Read 9006 times)

Doug Peterson · « **on:** March 11, 2009, 03:32:57 pm »

Here is a SPOOF on the Phase One Durability videos you all might find very funny.

It is NOT from Phase One. It is only meant for fun.

http://tinyurl.com/aggwcs

The real videos can be found here.

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tho_mas · « **Reply #1 on:** March 11, 2009, 04:06:11 pm »

Quote from: dougpetersonci

Here is a SPOOF on the Phase One Durability videos you all might find very funny.

can you give me the timecode of the "funny" bit? can't find it.
I find all these videos gruesomely cheap.

feppe · « **Reply #2 on:** March 11, 2009, 04:11:26 pm »

Quote from: John Schweikert

So I must be dense. Where is the joke, spoofs are supposed to be funny, right. Sure we all know about the Phase videos on durability, but when you destroy what I would assume was a perfectly working Hasselblad digital back seems plain stupid. Hopefully is wasn't a working back. Great, so an Elephant can break a Hassy DB. Should I be rolling on the floor now?

Does anyone watch the Daily Show? That's funny. They make spoofs that make you laugh. I guess I "walked into watching" this video expecting something else.

I was waiting for the punchline as well, which never came. The only punch was in my gut: I would've liked to have that Hassy before they destroyed it...

Hoang · « **Reply #3 on:** March 11, 2009, 04:17:55 pm »

Quote from: feppe

I was waiting for the punchline as well, which never came. The only punch was in my gut: I would've liked to have that Hassy before they destroyed it...

Kind of funny to see such a random test.. but not very funny to a poor college student to see a hasselblad digital back get thrown away, when all he has is a 20D

klane · « **Reply #4 on:** March 11, 2009, 04:22:41 pm »

michael · « **Reply #5 on:** March 11, 2009, 04:35:49 pm »

Doug, don't you know yet that on the net no good deed goes unpunished?

Michael

Doug Peterson · « **Reply #6 on:** March 11, 2009, 04:39:13 pm »

Quote from: michael

Doug, don't you know yet that on the net no good deed goes unpunished?

Michael

Yikes, tough room.

Next time I'll just doubt something over a Hitler video I guess.

eronald · « **Reply #7 on:** March 11, 2009, 05:23:59 pm »

MADE MY DAY! THANK YOU, THANK YOU!

Edmund

Quote from: dougpetersonci

Here is a SPOOF on the Phase One Durability videos you all might find very funny.

It is NOT from Phase One. It is only meant for fun.

http://tinyurl.com/aggwcs

The real videos can be found here.

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David Grover / Capture One · « **Reply #8 on:** March 11, 2009, 05:33:48 pm »

Oh Dear.

Not to mention the suspicious edit at 0:45... and wait for it, the back is all bashed up wiith the CF door sticking out at 0:46 before Nellie actually steps on it.

What did you use to make the fake *crunch* noise?

Must try harder Mr. P!

David

hubell · « **Reply #9 on:** March 11, 2009, 05:47:53 pm »

Quote from: David Grover / Hasselblad

Oh Dear.

Not to mention the suspicious edit at 0:45... and wait for it, the back is all bashed up wiith the CF door sticking out at 0:46 before Nellie actually steps on it.

What did you use to make the fake *crunch* noise?

Must try harder Mr. P!

David

They must be really feeling the heat from Hasselblad. You know what Freud said about jokes. [LOL]

Nick-T · « **Reply #10 on:** March 11, 2009, 05:51:54 pm »

Hey come on guys it's not from Phase one it's just a bit of fun.
It's not like the photographer (Drew Cardner) works for Phase or anything.

Nick-T

DesW · « **Reply #11 on:** March 11, 2009, 06:02:57 pm »

Quote from: Nick-T

Hey come on guys it's not from Phase one it's just a bit of fun.
It's not like the photographer (Drew Cardner) works for Phase or anything.

Nick-T

Morning Nickus,

Ah yes he does--well sort of -he is one of the Phase preferred snappers ,along with Tim Griffith

Drews comments /etc are posted in the Pro4 and P65+ promo blurbs.

Hope all well with you,

DesW

Leonardo Barreto · « **Reply #12 on:** March 11, 2009, 06:50:08 pm »

It illustrate the point which happens to be a valid one. Phase backs are stronger and more robust than other backs. The have no fan bringing who knows what in and out of the insides of the back, they are a solid low energy piece of equipment.

The video is effective as long as it gets to be presented at watering holes for MF users like The Luminous Landscape dot come Forum. In other words, we, ARE talking about it, so it is good..

David Grover / Capture One · « **Reply #13 on:** March 11, 2009, 07:00:21 pm »

Quote from: Leonardo Barreto

It illustrate the point which happens to be a valid one. Phase backs are stronger and more robust than other backs. The have no fan bringing who knows what in and out of the insides of the back, they are a solid low energy piece of equipment.

The video is effective as long as it gets to be presented at watering holes for MF users like The Luminous Landscape dot come Forum. In other words, we, ARE talking about it, so it is good..

H3D's have not had a fan for over a year now.

Not to mention the crushing of the H Back was faked.. so what does it prove?

Low energy? Do you have comparative tables of the wattage required to run all MF products? That would be a very interesting comparison for me. Please publish!

Best,

David

Dave Gallagher · « **Reply #14 on:** March 11, 2009, 07:16:40 pm »

Quote from: Nick-T

Hey come on guys it's not from Phase one it's just a bit of fun.
It's not like the photographer (Drew Cardner) works for Phase or anything.

Nick-T

Nick,

Drew Gardner was not in that video. The photographer was Giuliano Bekor. The man in with the boyish face was Murray Elliot.

And this was just having some fun while out on a shoot. No harm no foul, and it is not an official P1 video. In a way, it was mocking the P1 videos.

Life is too short to get upset over silly things gentlemen.

Nick-T · « **Reply #15 on:** March 11, 2009, 07:24:49 pm »

Quote from: Dave Gallagher

Nick,

Drew Gardner was not in that video. The photographer was Giuliano Bekor. The man in with the boyish face was Murray Elliot.

And this was just having some fun while out on a shoot. No harm no foul, and it is not an official P1 video. In a way, it was mocking the P1 videos.

Life is too short to get upset over silly things gentlemen.

Ack my mistake Dave
Thought I recognised him from 'kina.
Nick-T

RobertJ · « **Reply #16 on:** March 11, 2009, 07:29:27 pm »

I like how they crushed the Hasselblad back and then put the Phase back on the HASSELBLAD CAMERA to shoot.

Leonardo Barreto · « **Reply #17 on:** March 11, 2009, 07:41:06 pm »

I was thinking about Leaf backs that have fans, not really familiar with H backs, but I applaud the fact that they don't have them, I wouldn't want one on my back.

And regarding the energy use, I don't have the tables, but was referring to the feature of Phase backs to maintain the camera on sleep mode in order to keep it coo --without a fan-- and that a side effect was that they consumed less energy, but I confess that all of this thinking is not backed by up to date comparative tables. I wonder if such data exist...

Quote from: David Grover / Hasselblad

H3D's have not had a fan for over a year now.

Not to mention the crushing of the H Back was faked.. so what does it prove?

Low energy? Do you have comparative tables of the wattage required to run all MF products? That would be a very interesting comparison for me. Please publish!

Best,

David

H1/A75 Guy · « **Reply #18 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:36:37 pm »

Quote from: Leonardo Barreto

I have decided to become an observer -at least for the moment- and stop commenting on this topic. Apparently my posts are giving the impression that I have an ax to grind, that I work for Hasselblad or who knows what. I want to be on the record that this is not so -of course-.

Leonardo Barreto

Quote from: Leonardo Barreto

I was thinking about Leaf backs that have fans, not really familiar with H backs, but I applaud the fact that they don't have them, I wouldn't want one on my back.

You're such an ass.

David

Leonardo Barreto · « **Reply #19 on:** March 11, 2009, 10:01:46 pm »

Nice to see you too David, thank you for contributing to the discussion here, but I find that the "You're such an ass." expression is a bit personal. And as you can read I made a positive comment about Hasselblad. I said that it is good that they have no fan.

[blockquote]The Fan (Michael Reichmann)

The Aptus has a fan, which the P25 does not. Air is sucked into openings on the left side of the housing and blown out of the right side openings. The fan is very quiet, and can only be heard when the camera is up to ones eye in a quiet environment. But fans of course draw power, and this obviously plays a role in the Aptus' battery life.

This also brings to the fore the issue of power management as well as concerns when working in harsh environments. My primary concern is that when shooting in dusty and dirty conditions, the fan will suck airborne particle into and through the back. What impact this may have on component life is an open question, but if I was a photographer working from time to time in such conditions (which I am), this would be something to consider.

The reason that the P25 does not have a fan, and doesn't need one, is because of the power management approach taken by Phase One. They describe this as Sleep architecture, where components are only powered up as needed, and otherwise are put into a quiescent state. This has a dramatic effect on power consumption, as does their dimmer but more power-stingy LCD. As well, the P25's entire front panel where it connects to the camera body is designed as a heat sink, drawing heat from inside the back to its exterior.[/blockquote]
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/...s/aptus22.shtml

Quote from: H1/A75 Guy

You're such an ass.

David

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