Topic: Adobe Camara Raw (ACR) 5.2 (Read 7895 times)

Dinarius · « **on:** February 08, 2009, 06:04:38 am »

I am running CS3 (PC Vista x64) and when I open ACR, I note that it is version 4.6.

If I choose Updates, either within Photoshop or Bridge, I get the message that there are no updates available at this time.

So, is ACR 5.2 part of CS4 only? Or is it only part of Mac versions? (though I have seen 5.2 mentioned on PC Adobe forums.)

Thanks.

D.

Digital Darkroom in Dutch · « **Reply #1 on:** February 08, 2009, 06:59:57 am »

You can find updates for ACR in this url:

http://www.adobe.com/downloads/updates/

Dinarius · « **Reply #2 on:** February 08, 2009, 07:08:10 am »

Thanks.

Looks like it's CS4 only.

D.

michael · « **Reply #3 on:** February 08, 2009, 08:32:22 am »

If all you need is support for a recent model camera, just grab their latest free DNG converter and batch convert your files. Then load them into your old ACR.

Michael

sniper · « **Reply #4 on:** February 08, 2009, 10:00:02 am »

If you have CS4 then the 5.2 update is the latest for windows or mac. Wayne

Schewe · « **Reply #5 on:** February 08, 2009, 11:52:58 am »

Quote from: Dinarius

I am running CS4 (PC Vista x64) and when I open ACR, I note that it is version 4.6.

No, I think you are wrong...either you are NOT running CS4 or you are running CS4 and you don't know how to check the version of Camera Raw that is running. Go to help, plug-ins and select Camera Raw. What version is it? The correct version is also listed in the main Camera Raw window when NOT in full screen mode. Checking the Camera Calibrate windows in _NOT_ the way to determine your ACR version...

Richowens · « **Reply #6 on:** February 08, 2009, 12:01:33 pm »

http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Camera_Raw_5.3

Dinarius · « **Reply #7 on:** February 08, 2009, 01:13:23 pm »

Oops!

Sincerest apologies to all. I should have written that I am running CS3 NOT CS4 (now edited). Sorry about that.

So, it appears that I need CS4 in order to have ACR 5.3.

Since I have the attention of some heavyweight contributors ( )...........

Most of my professional work is done in ACR. I do very little in PS.

Are there any killer apps in ACR 5.3 worth upgrading to CS4 for?

Many thanks.

D.

dogear · « **Reply #8 on:** February 08, 2009, 01:30:33 pm »

Quote from: Dinarius

Most of my professional work is done in ACR. I do very little in PS.

Are there any killer apps in ACR 5.3 worth upgrading to CS4 for?

D.

ACR 5.x is one of the most compelling reasons to upgrade to CS4.

jjj · « **Reply #9 on:** February 09, 2009, 03:21:28 am »

Quote from: dogear

Quote from: Dinarius
Are there any killer apps in ACR 5.3 worth upgrading to CS4 for?
ACR 5.x is one of the most compelling reasons to upgrade to CS4.

I second that. ACR5 is a huge improvement over 4 and has replaced PS for a lot of my work.
Localised RAW editing and grad filters are simply fantastic.

Ben Rubinstein · « **Reply #10 on:** February 09, 2009, 04:36:28 am »

Quote from: dogear

ACR 5.x is one of the most compelling reasons to upgrade to CS4.

Third it, only thing I can see in PS worth upgrading for is 64 bit (pretty big 'only' actually), however the new Bridge and ACR are really incredible and well worth using CS4 for.

Digital Darkroom in Dutch · « **Reply #11 on:** February 09, 2009, 05:05:35 am »

I'm afraid that Adobe is going to relay more and more on their monopolist position. Since the introduction of CS4 you are obliged to by an upgrade from CS3 after you bought a new camera that is not supported by ACR4. OK, Michael has given us a work around - thank you for that - but this should not be necessary. It is remarkable that we hardly see any complaints on Adobe's policy, although it enforces its clients to spend a lot of money just to get their newest hardware supported.

I have abandoned from Photoshop and am now working with DxOOptics Pro 5 and Lightroom 2, which fulfills my needs.

Anthony.Ralph · « **Reply #12 on:** February 09, 2009, 05:45:09 am »

Quote from: Digital Darkroom in Dutch

I'm afraid that Adobe is going to relay more and more on their monopolist position. Since the introduction of CS4 you are obliged to by an upgrade from CS3 after you bought a new camera that is not supported by ACR4. OK, Michael has given us a work around - thank you for that - but this should not be necessary. It is remarkable that we hardly see any complaints on Adobe's policy, although it enforces its clients to spend a lot of money just to get their newest hardware supported.

I have abandoned from Photoshop and am now working with DxOOptics Pro 5 and Lightroom 2, which fulfills my needs.

I have seen this argument put forward quite a few times and I think it is a spurious one. Along with a new camera, there will be the manufacturers raw converter so there is a way to obtain raw conversions without ACR or Adobe being involved at all and therefore no obligation is involved. Secondly, ACR is a plug-in to Photoshop; upgrade Photoshop, upgrade the plug-in: this seems reasonable. The DNG option is offered as a work-around (and many other things too of course) so Adobe haven't abandoned the new equipment user who doesn't want to upgrade their Photoshop software. To make new versions of ACR backwards compatible is no simple matter and could hamper implementing new features as well as offering little or no revenue benefits to Adobe, just cost: they are in business after all so it should come as no surprise they don't wish to do this.

If cost is a real issue, just waiting whilst the early adopters of new equipment have been and gone and the suppliers start their price adjustments to tempt the mainstream, will normally ensure there is enough cash to pay for the Photoshop update anyway.

Anthony.

Dinarius · « **Reply #13 on:** February 09, 2009, 06:26:02 am »

I'm persuaded.

I'm using Vista x64 and, having spoken with others, ACR 5.x sounds worth the upgrade.

Just ordered it!

Thanks for the feedback.

D.

ps. As someone who uses a Hasselblad H3Dll MS 39Mp, I can sympathize with those who'd like their camera supported by ACR. That said, anyone who has seen a 4 shot file shot using Flexcolor in Reproduction Mode has been blown away. But, I digress............

pps. Why do I get a reminder email for EVERY new post to a thread rather than just one, as on most internet forums?

jjj · « **Reply #14 on:** February 09, 2009, 09:31:23 pm »

Quote from: Digital Darkroom in Dutch

I'm afraid that Adobe is going to relay more and more on their monopolist position. Since the introduction of CS4 you are obliged to by an upgrade from CS3 after you bought a new camera that is not supported by ACR4. OK, Michael has given us a work around - thank you for that - but this should not be necessary. It is remarkable that we hardly see any complaints on Adobe's policy, although it enforces its clients to spend a lot of money just to get their newest hardware supported.

I have abandoned from Photoshop and am now working with DxOOptics Pro 5 and Lightroom 2, which fulfills my needs.

Why should Adobe give you an upgrade to an older programme version as you spent lots of money on a new camera, with yet another RAW format? Why not complain the the camera maker instead, it's their fault it doesn't work with ACR, yet people havea go at Adobe instead.
Adobe designed the open DNG solution and give it away for free, so you could carry on using an older version of ACR and Adobe are the bad guys! Not even sure why you would want to carry on using ACR4 particularly as you have LR with ACR5 in it.

Digital Darkroom in Dutch · « **Reply #15 on:** February 10, 2009, 03:20:33 am »

Quote from: jjj

Not even sure why you would want to carry on using ACR4 particularly as you have LR with ACR5 in it.

When you are going to do some enhancements in Photoshop CS3, you get a warning that the file to be transferred may not be entirely compatible.

No, IMHO it becomes clear that Adobe is going to make a distiction between multimedia professionals and photographers. Photographers are gradualy moved towards Lightroom and PS Elements and CS4 is for the multimedia paople. Initially two versions of Photoshop CS3 and 4 were issued. Nowadays the plain version is not longer spoken off. The enhanced version is the only one.

jjj · « **Reply #16 on:** February 10, 2009, 10:56:25 pm »

Quote from: Digital Darkroom in Dutch

When you are going to do some enhancements in Photoshop CS3, you get a warning that the file to be transferred may not be entirely compatible.

I just altered a file in LR2 and used some of ACR5's features and managed to open it fine in PS CS3. LR can work with any bitmap editor of your choosingas the file that goes to editor is a PSD or tiff.

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IMHO it becomes clear that Adobe is going to make a distiction between multimedia professionals and photographers. Photographers are gradually moved towards Lightroom and PS Elements and CS4 is for the multimedia paople. Initially two versions of Photoshop CS3 and 4 were issued. Nowadays the plain version is not longer spoken off. The enhanced version is the only one.

Nonsense, the Extended version isn't referenced that much in my experience and is simply sold alongside the normal version and those who need the specialised extras will buy the extended version. No big deal.
Photographers are moving themselves towards LR and other RAW processors, as in reality for most people it is a better option. I don't recommend PS to most photographers now, as LR does all that they require for image editing, particularly as ACR/LR has proper localised RAW editing ability. PS was designed for editing images one at a time, RAW images need processing en masse, so a differnt programme is needed.

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