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sniper

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« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2009, 10:43:51 am »

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In a nutshell, Ken Rockwell likes to shoot classic film as well as digital JPG.
That’s probably not entirely stupid, although his tech reasoning in detail is flawed.
I’d start with the pics, respectively:

1.) http://www.kenrockwell.com/trips/2009-01-dv/index.htm
2.) http://www.kenrockwell.com/trips/2009-01-dv/tech.htm
3.) http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/why-we-love-film.htm

1.) http://kenrockwell.com/canon/images/g10/gallery.htm
2.) http://kenrockwell.com/tech/raw.htm


The film look: color appearance, organic grain and in particular the differrent mechanics of highlight clipping can be seen as a challange on it’s own with digital capture. Again, his early ETTL approach bears some food for thoughts:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/fixing-dynamic-range.htm

Peter
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I love the organic grain bit, I can see that on the small laptop I'm using at the moment, remember this is Velvia 50, I shouldn't be able to see organic grain on a big image, never mind an 8x6 I'm looking at now. Looks more Velvia 800 to me.  Wayne
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« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2009, 11:00:41 am »

Saying stupid things, then adding that you're possibly just kidding, is a license to say even more stupid things and continue to get away with it.

Who's kidding whom?

Enough said.

Michael

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« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2009, 04:04:28 pm »

I'm curious why you all love ken rockwell so much. You sure all go on about him.
I mean the Joker in the Batman movie is a bad guy...but we LIKE him.

Despite his nuttery, he's basically an advocate of film, and despite all the technical arguments and mumbo jumbo I agree with whats at the heart of his claim.

Film justs LOOKS better than digital.
So why did we throw the baby out with the bathwater with all this new technology?

Same thing happened in music tech.Moogs being replaced by DX7's and their ilk. Tube mics to solid state...yada yada.
You can argue it's a matter of subjective value....but your ears and eyes are tin and rosy (in my opinion) if you can't discern that simple, undeniable FACT.

I use digital for workflow , it's flexibility and many other factors....but I know my Kodachromes just LOOK better straight out of the box, and with digital I usually rely on digital muckery to EMULATE a filmic quality.
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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2009, 03:26:47 am »

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I'm curious why you all love ken rockwell so much. You sure all go on about him.
I mean the Joker in the Batman movie is a bad guy...but we LIKE him.

True - I get a laugh out of his stuff so maybe that's not a bad thing.

"Why so serious?"
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« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2009, 07:04:48 am »

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Saying stupid things, then adding that you're possibly just kidding, is a license to say even more stupid things and continue to get away with it.

Who's kidding whom?

Enough said.

Michael

saying stupid things and getting away with it...  isn't that "Comedy"?  
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« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2009, 07:56:59 am »

Sorry no, there's a definite difference between stupidity and comedy. Stupid can also be funny, but that doesn't make it any less stupid.

Michael

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« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2009, 09:35:08 am »

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saying stupid things and getting away with it...  isn't that "Comedy"?  
Like "Mission Accomplished"? Some comedy.
Or to qoute Forrest Gump: Stupid is as Stupid does.
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