Futt Futt, again you jump to conclusions about the desires of another. I am, if anything, less interrested in erotic images than I have ever been, but if you wish to include eroticism (implied by the suggestion of magazines) then Mz L fails utterly to produce it, by my measurements, and fails as utterly to provide any alternative emotional connect for me other than one of revulsion (of the images, not of herself).
If you read post more carefully, you would have realised the magazine comment was a tongue in cheek one, regarding Ray's post not yours.
Should one wish to do nudes, then if not a celebration of beauty, what do we have - its opposite? Scenes from an abattoir come to mind in this instance. Quite seriously though, and not wishing to score points at all, what can be the purpose of doing nudes unless to create beauty?
Well that's a closed minded view and exactly why I pointed out people have different tastes. Plus this is exactly why you come across like a fuddy duddy and old fashioned. Some people like that sort of image, some don't. Personally, traditional glamour photography is something I find very boring/cheesy. Yet others love it. You seem to like 'pretty' [for lack of a better word] or traditional glamour imagery when it comes to naked women - nothing wrong with that, just as there is nothing wrong with liking different stuff.
I like them as photographs, the fact that there is a naked female in them is not that relevant really.
Can it be the buzz of the presence of a naked person when you are, presumably, not naked too? Is the buzz to do with physical presence and a sense of sexual power over another? Is it a need simply to look at a naked other? Of Ms Līs sexuality I know little other than what is implied in her sisterīs documentary, so perhaps itīs a sexual thing anyway, much as it often is between male photographer and female model on some levels.
Or simply different tastes. I like the shots, the person posting them liked them. You don't. I like gritty low key imagery, therefore there was a good chance I'd like the images more than if they were lit like a corporate mug shot, regardless of content
Do I assume those who photograph naked people always do so for sexual reasons? Certainly there will be an element of that at times, as people photograph what they like and many a famous artist has had cettainly had affairs with models, but I know a straight male photographer that specializes in males simply as almost everyone else photographs women and he want to do something different and a friend is filminga video on how to do fancy bondage rope tying, but had to get someone else in to do the rope stuff as it isn't his thing.
I didn't think there was anything to hint at with regard to AL's sexuality. Susan Sontag was her partner for many years until her recent death.
And the age references; what makes you think Ms Annie is some spring chicken? What makes you make the connection between age (your personal cutt-off number not mentioned) and having valid opinions? Do people older than you frighten you, shame you, embarrass you or just turn you off? What a mysterious concept hidden within there somewhere!
How old you are, Annie or myself is, is irrelevant. Actual age was not the point. I said you were like old people bemoaning the tastes of the young, who only make themselves look foolish in doing so. Particularly when they themselves wore clothes/listened to music their elders in their turn disapproved of. I am probably unusual in being unimpressed with today's music and fashion, because it is all a unimaginative rehash of stuff that went before, rather than trying to be different from the past. I like the shock of the new.
Speaking about music..
Music? How far back does your taste go? I could have given you a run for your money with jazz, vintages New Orleans, Chicago, St Louis etc. through rīnīb and rīnīr and diversions into swing but what would that prove, other than I care little for much that happened post Stones, as I think you once declared - or was it post Beatles? Much the same time, anyway. But still eff-all to do with that series of abysmal naked corpses which is where we came in.
I have plenty of music from the 20's if we are talking 3-4 minute songs, earlier for orchestral stuff and alsonew stuff from today and from the years inbetween too. BTW I spend a lot of time in environments where Swing is the only music to be heard, as I do swing/Lindy dancing and that is not the Las Vegas Lounge stuff that many people erroneously describe as swing music and where you seemed to place it in your musical timeline.
Saying there was no decent music after a certain time simply dates you and says nothing about you 'superior' taste and is everything to do with your dislike of the images, as it's the same thing. People tend not to like music that came after their youth as it wa never as good as in their day, you seem to be the same with more contempary imagery. You simply come across as very old fashioned and non mainstream/traditional things do not appear to be to your taste, which is fine.
Interestingly all the music you list you like was shocking in it's time, yet now it's all so very acceptable and quotidian. Just as more recent punk style tunes or radical electronica from the Eighties from times gone by are now to be heard whilst on hold waiting for customer services to answer phone. Or the shocking impressionist paintings are now seen as bit twee or ballet being seen as a bit fuddy duddy, rather than the place where radical art and ideas were first seen. Times and tastes change, some people don't.