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« on: January 17, 2009, 10:54:09 am »

Here are some photos from the H3DII-50


lens used, HC-300 and HC-50-110

If you going to ask me question, go ahead

but to answer you lets me first tell you.

Do you need the camera? NO .   why no?    Well the files are to big, you going to need, a lot places to store the files.

that is #1. oh, what about ?#2 phocus is a nightmare, if you come from C1 (sorry H).

P45+ vs H3DII-50 well, well, well.  To me I will go with H,,Oh why? H, is cheaper, do not need extra battery, is lighter you have only one company vs 2 from phase one.

Most important CUSTOMER service is with you at all the time, a list for me is more important then money.
If you need a raw files, please let me know, how I can send it.  Will be yours free.

I love the camera, is very light, the price was just right.  Do not ask me how much I got it for.

PS the first/last files, was handheld, with the hc-300
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2009, 11:10:09 am »

Hi Blas,


Glad you are enjoying the camera.

Give Phocus a chance to learn it.  It is a great piece of software and can help you along with many things.  Check the videos on hasselblad.com if you would prefer not to look at the manual.

Cheers,



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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2009, 11:34:15 am »

BlasR or David,

• Is there not a compressed RAW file format similar to Phase One's IIQL ?

• Why is the specification 1fps, but only 30 frames per minute (shouldn't it be 60)?

• What are the chances of a multi-shot version?

Thanks,

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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2009, 12:28:22 pm »


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Hi Blas,


Glad you are enjoying the camera.

Give Phocus a chance to learn it.  It is a great piece of software and can help you along with many things.  Check the videos on hasselblad.com if you would prefer not to look at the manual.

Cheers,



David

I agree, Phocus is very good in terms of color quality and look of the image.  It is buggy however and a big computer resource consumer.
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2009, 02:32:21 pm »

David,

My problem right now is, if I wish to look some files. Exemple here.

I took the photo from my bathroom, got it on my desktop as a new folder,  I want to open it with phocus,

I can see files, I click on it, in nothing happen, double click, nothing happen, safe it on,what ever else, and maybe will work.

Why if I click to the files, see them in then double click, why I can't open it?

Now I finish with a file, in I like to open it with bridge 4, why it's can't be done?

Do I'm doing something wrong?

I can't find the help with the video/menual

Thank you.

I'm still love the camera, but phocus, I will give a week 5 hours a day, if not, poor me

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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2009, 11:32:13 am »

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David,

My problem right now is, if I wish to look some files. Exemple here.

I took the photo from my bathroom, got it on my desktop as a new folder,  I want to open it with phocus,

I can see files, I click on it, in nothing happen, double click, nothing happen, safe it on,what ever else, and maybe will work.

Why if I click to the files, see them in then double click, why I can't open it?

Now I finish with a file, in I like to open it with bridge 4, why it's can't be done?

Do I'm doing something wrong?

I can't find the help with the video/menual

Thank you.

I'm still love the camera, but phocus, I will give a week 5 hours a day, if not, poor me

BlasR

Hi,
I quess that you shot on CF card.
So it's easy. You must click on "import icon" and chose directory where you have your photos.
After import your files are in "destination folder"
righ now you can bouble click to open.
I hope that clearly described, if not I am sorry I have the flue.


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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2009, 12:19:37 pm »

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I agree, Phocus is very good in terms of color quality and look of the image.  It is buggy however and a big computer resource consumer.
BlasR, thank you for sharing info about H3D50!

I'd like to get a RAW file of a pic taken on ISO 50 with widest lens you have! Please send me a private message on how may I get the file.

Thank you.
Alex
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2009, 02:02:15 pm »

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I love the camera, is very light, the price was just right.  Do not ask me how much I got it for.
So how much did it cost?  

Phocus!! - getting images into Phocus/dealing with Hassy files/Flexcolour [spit!!] is not quite as straightforward as with other software.
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2009, 05:41:45 am »

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BlasR or David,

• Is there not a compressed RAW file format similar to Phase One's IIQL ?

• Why is the specification 1fps, but only 30 frames per minute (shouldn't it be 60)?

• What are the chances of a multi-shot version?

Thanks,

Billy

1. Yes, the Hasselblad RAW files are compressed

2. The number of frames per minute will depend on the speed of CF card you are using, so will vary.  Ie an Extreme IV card or higher will clear quicker compared to a slower card.

3. There is every chance I am sure.  Depends very much if the increased benefit is 'worth it' compared to the single shot - which is excellent on the 50MP.  We will see!


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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2009, 05:45:17 am »

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So how much did it cost?  

Phocus!! - getting images into Phocus/dealing with Hassy files/Flexcolour [spit!!] is not quite as straightforward as with other software.

I disagree (of course!)

The import function allows you to do many things 'on import'.  

Like adding Meta Data (copyright, keywording, other templates) and settings, so saving time later in the workflow.

You can import directly from the camera, or card reader and be able to see the files before import if you wish to exclude some.  You do not need to copy them to the computer first if you do not wish too.

Best,


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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2009, 05:49:43 am »

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David,

My problem right now is, if I wish to look some files. Exemple here.

I took the photo from my bathroom, got it on my desktop as a new folder,  I want to open it with phocus,

I can see files, I click on it, in nothing happen, double click, nothing happen, safe it on,what ever else, and maybe will work.

Why if I click to the files, see them in then double click, why I can't open it?

Now I finish with a file, in I like to open it with bridge 4, why it's can't be done?

Do I'm doing something wrong?

I can't find the help with the video/menual

Thank you.

I'm still love the camera, but phocus, I will give a week 5 hours a day, if not, poor me

BlasR


Blas take a look at page 25 in the Phocus manual.  Everything is explained there in one page with screen grabs.  It is very simple.  Start with selecting a new destination folder where you want your imported files to go.  Take a look at page 15 towards the bottom.

Images shot to a CF card are compressed.  Importing them into Phocus uncompresses them and allows you to do other things on import as described above.

I see you have joined the Hasselblad forum and you will also get excellent help and advice there too. ;-)

Best,


David
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2009, 05:53:37 am »

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I agree, Phocus is very good in terms of color quality and look of the image.  It is buggy however and a big computer resource consumer.


Yes it is fair to say Phocus does use reasonable resources.  However, by using core image in OSX (which allows us to access the processor on the graphics card) we can give the user immediate feedback on changes / edits to the image at 100% without them having to wait for the preview to 'build'.

Buggy, I would say no certainly with our latest release 1.1.2.

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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2009, 06:12:02 am »

Thanks, David.
Some facts, please:

What size is the uncompressed RAW file?
What size is the compressed RAW file when shooting to CF card?
What size is the compressed RAW file when shooting to computer?

How many frames per minute shooting to an ExtremeIV CF card?
How many frames per minute shooting to fastest Mac Pro tower?
How many frames per minute shooting to fastest MacBook Pro laptop?
Any slowdown after a certain amount of frames for EACH?


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1. Yes, the Hasselblad RAW files are compressed

2. The number of frames per minute will depend on the speed of CF card you are using, so will vary.  Ie an Extreme IV card or higher will clear quicker compared to a slower card.

3. There is every chance I am sure.  Depends very much if the increased benefit is 'worth it' compared to the single shot - which is excellent on the 50MP.  We will see!
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2009, 06:38:14 am »

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Thanks, David.
Some facts, please:

What size is the uncompressed RAW file?
What size is the compressed RAW file when shooting to CF card?
What size is the compressed RAW file when shooting to computer?

How many frames per minute shooting to an ExtremeIV CF card?
How many frames per minute shooting to fastest Mac Pro tower?
How many frames per minute shooting to fastest MacBook Pro laptop?
Any slowdown after a certain amount of frames for EACH?

No Problem!

- Size to CF card is 65.8MB (3FR file)
- When transferred to computer (3F file) it is virtually the same as it still remains compressed to some extent to save on file size.  We do add a larger preview which increases the file size a bit.  Each file will vary slightly due to how much it can be compressed but it will be no more than 70MB.
- As above

-33 per minute.  This will be better as the CF card speeds increase.  UDMA cards are already supported.
- Very hard to say - depends on memory and hard disk speed.  I haven't done a test yet myself so will let you know when I do.
- As above.

Regarding the last two - You could essentially shoot 1.1 frames every second until you ran out of memory.  Then those images are written from RAM to Disk which will increase depending on the speed of the system (RAM speed and disk speed).  There is very little slowdown even when shooting a lot of frames.

Perhaps visit a dealer and put it through the ringer under your own conditions?

Best,


David
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2009, 09:35:11 am »

hi david,
i have a question too about phocus:
sometimes when i doubleclick on one thumbnail, it will open in the viewer - but suddenly swiches to black  

if i click on another image to view, it may work and then going back to the first image it does look alright also.

i have no idea why sometimes the screen is black?

do you have any idea?

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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2009, 09:52:08 am »

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I disagree (of course!)

The import function allows you to do many things 'on import'.  

Like adding Meta Data (copyright, keywording, other templates) and settings, so saving time later in the workflow.

You can import directly from the camera, or card reader and be able to see the files before import if you wish to exclude some.  You do not need to copy them to the computer first if you do not wish too.

Best,


David
David,

I desagree, with you(sorry)

 Right now, if I want to get anything from the flash card, or desktop, I need to copy what ever I want to,"quick collection or appliccation", & some time work with Scatchpad. Then I can work with those files

I will contact my vender, to see if they can help.

But so far, is a nightmare, to do anything.

BlasR


Alex,

I have not problem to send you file.

So tell me how and I will send it to you

If you want with HC-35 let me know, I can go outside,( 1 1/2 foot of snow), take couple shots, and send it to you.

Here is my street with h3dII-50
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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2009, 09:53:14 am »

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hi david,
i have a question too about phocus:
sometimes when i doubleclick on one thumbnail, it will open in the viewer - but suddenly swiches to black  

if i click on another image to view, it may work and then going back to the first image it does look alright also.

i have no idea why sometimes the screen is black?

do you have any idea?

regards
tom


Tom,

I have the same problem.

What camera do you have?

Thanks

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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2009, 09:59:19 am »

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David,

I desagree, with you(sorry)

 Right now, if I want to get anything from the flash card, or desktop, I need to copy what ever I want to,"quick collection or appliccation", & some time work with Scatchpad. Then I can work with those files

I will contact my vender, to see if they can help.

But so far, is a nightmare, to do anything.

BlasR

Hi Blas,

No need to be sorry!  Always a learning curve with these things.

There is no need to copy from the CF card if you don't want to.  You can 'import' directly from it.  You do not need to use the quick collection either.  The Scratchpad is simply a default folder Phocus makes when you first launch it.  However, you can change the name and location of this to your own preference.  It is simply a folder where you want your raw files to be from a particular job.

Nice image!  Just back from the snowy regions myself.

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David


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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2009, 10:00:12 am »

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hi david,
i have a question too about phocus:
sometimes when i doubleclick on one thumbnail, it will open in the viewer - but suddenly swiches to black  

if i click on another image to view, it may work and then going back to the first image it does look alright also.

i have no idea why sometimes the screen is black?

do you have any idea?

regards
tom

Hi Tom and Blas,

What video card do you have in your Mac.  Also what Mac do you have?

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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2009, 10:09:14 am »

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Hi Tom and Blas,

What video card do you have in your Mac.  Also what Mac do you have?

Best,


David

David,
here is what I got:

2x3.2 GHz Quad-core intel xeon

memory 16 GB

Graphics, Nvidia geForce 8800  GT.

Is good ?

I hope it is,is  work great with Capture One

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