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ErikKaffehr

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« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2008, 03:27:29 AM »

Hi,

I don't really think the diffraction limit is a problem. Stop down below f/16 and blame yourself. The loss between optimal aperture and f/16 can certainly be measured but I don't really think it matters that much. On the other hand I would say that f/64 is an extremely bad idea in the era of imagers with 6 micron pixel pitch.

The MFDB/view camera guys have a point. Focusing with a good loupe on the ground glass takes much of the guess work out of depth of field,if the MFDB has "live view" it is even better.

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But that's even harder to manage with MFDBs.

Cheers,
Bernard

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« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2008, 10:21:13 AM »

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But that's even harder to manage with MFDBs.

The tighter is the pixel pitch the more difficult it becomes. With weak AA filter on D3X diffraction effects are visible past f/5.6.
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« Reply #22 on: December 27, 2008, 11:26:15 PM »

Hello Jost,

Have you had the opportunity to re-shoot some of this with a prime lens on the d3x?

Thanks.

Cheers,
Bernard

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« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2008, 06:23:07 PM »

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Hello Jost,

Have you had the opportunity to re-shoot some of this with a prime lens on the d3x?

Thanks.

Cheers,
Bernard



Hi Bernard

Yes I have!
I did a whole comparison with the Zeiss ZF 2/100mm, more carefully watching focus (with Live view!), diffraction limits and using MLU of course again.
I also processed the files with various settings. NX still remains my preferred method for the NEF files.

My 24-70mm was perfect on the D3, but it has to be checked with the D3x by Nikon: Tolerances are getting even smaller now due to the diminished pixel size....
The D3x definitely does have a significant advantage in resolution over the D3, but only visible with the best lenses (as expected).
I have therefore already traded in my D3.
I also just finished my first professional job with the D3x with great success:
Winter advertising images for a local cable car company (in our swiss mountains). The D3x worked absolutely flawlessly and delivered!

BUT the gap between the 35mm sensor(s) and my P45+ remains big.
So whenever I can, I prefer to shoot "old style" with my ALPA SWA on the tripod, with focussing on the ground glass with a loupe: The precision can't be beaten.

I habe also published a comparison between the D3 and the D3x at 1600ISO using the ZF 100mm, but without another P45+ image to compare with:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp...essage=30418008

Because of all kind of images and comparisions on the net with the D3x involved, I'd rather not publish any more samples.

Thanks for your interest.




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« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2008, 04:00:49 PM »

which city is in the pictures Jost - looks very beautiful!

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« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2008, 05:24:56 PM »

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which city is in the pictures Jost - looks very beautiful!


It's the capital of Switzerland: Bern, with the governmenthouse in the back (left).



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« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2008, 05:50:05 PM »

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Yes I have!
I did a whole comparison with the Zeiss ZF 2/100mm, more carefully watching focus (with Live view!), diffraction limits and using MLU of course again.
I also processed the files with various settings. NX still remains my preferred method for the NEF files.

Jost,

Thanks for your feedback.

Cheers,
Bernard
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