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Chris13

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I plan to buy a T/S lens (24mm) for landscape photographs. I wonder how shift movements would be an improvement over a lens which has not this capability.
Can someone posts some examples of such photographs, let say flowers in the forground and mountains in the background or anything else like this.
Thank you very mmuch
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2008, 07:47:41 am »

Quote from: Chris13
Hello
I plan to buy a T/S lens (24mm) for landscape photographs. I wonder how shift movements would be an improvement over a lens which has not this capability.
Can someone posts some examples of such photographs, let say flowers in the forground and mountains in the background or anything else like this.
Thank you very mmuch

You need a bit more than just the lens if you have overlapping elements. I wrote an article about it
a couple of years ago here.

I have some images taken that way there as well.

Bernard Languillier wrote about another approach here: http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/came...rseman_LD.shtml

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Examples of landscape photographs using shift movement on a T/S lens
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2008, 09:43:06 am »

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Hello
I plan to buy a T/S lens (24mm) for landscape photographs. I wonder how shift movements would be an improvement over a lens which has not this capability.
Can someone posts some examples of such photographs, let say flowers in the forground and mountains in the background or anything else like this.
Thank you very mmuch

You probably mean tilt/swing instead of shift--which, altho' used in landscape for various purposes, probably wouldn't be as applicable to your specific example.  This little essay by Jack Flesher gives a good overview of the use of a TS lens
   http://www.outbackphoto.com/workflow/wf_42/essay.html
This older article by John Shaw may be helpful also.    http://www.photosafaris.com/Articles/TiltLenses.asp

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Examples of landscape photographs using shift movement on a T/S lens
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2008, 02:28:16 am »

Nikkor 24/3.5 PC-E and D300:





I think the first image more clearly illustrates the advantages of tilting the plane of focus (notice that the structure behind the subject there is pleasantly out of focus), while the second image shows that the lens does pretty well while simultaneously using both of its movements.  The second one is a reprisal of an earlier version I took last winter that required perspective control skewing in Photoshop with a resulting loss of resolution and the bridge tower was out of focus.  With the second image both movements were about half of what the lens is capable of doing.  The left sides of both images are cropped for compositional reasons.
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2008, 05:24:26 pm »

The effect of the tilt is not easy to see on less than full-resolution images (unless you use it to create out-of-focus areas) since it's about sharpness. As for the shift, here are two examples.

In this  autumn scenery photo  if shift was not used, the trees on the hill and the reeds would not appear parallel, but those on the sides of the frame would be diverging (leaning towards the frame). In this redwood forest photo,  without shift, the trees would again not be parallel, but appear to be converging. While there is intrinsically nothing wrong with those geometric effects, I feel that they create a distraction that reduces the sense of serenity those scenes inspire. For instance, another photo of redwoods and rododendrons looking up has a more dynamic character because of the sense of looking up that is emphasized by convergence.

BTW, for full disclosure, those images were photographed with a large format camera, not a T/S lens, but the idea is the same. On such a camera, all lenses just become T/S.
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Examples of landscape photographs using shift movement on a T/S lens
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2008, 07:11:48 am »

I think it is tilt rather than shift examples you are after.

I can't see a need for a TS lens for landscapes if you are using a dslr. Just shoot a few focus bracketed frames and put them through helicon focus or similar focus blending software and you actually get more dof rather than just changing the plane of focus with tilt. Tilt does not solve every dof problem, trees and subjects that stick up from the ground some distance very close to the camera are an issue.

TS lenses are a pain to use with an optical viewfinder (less of a pain with live view perhaps), don't perform as well optically (especially canon), are limited in the focal lengths you can get and very expensive.
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Examples of landscape photographs using shift movement on a T/S lens
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2008, 09:54:17 am »

Quote from: Chris13
Hello
I plan to buy a T/S lens (24mm) for landscape photographs. I wonder how shift movements would be an improvement over a lens which has not this capability.
Can someone posts some examples of such photographs, let say flowers in the forground and mountains in the background or anything else like this.
Thank you very mmuch

Here is one I did with the D3 and 24 TSE lens earlier in the summer, no flowers but it should give you some idea of capabilities.

Hope this helps

Rob


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