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« Reply #60 on: October 15, 2008, 08:14:01 pm »

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Hi Steve,

I haven't used C1 Pro much before and wanted to know if it offers the ability to overlay an existing image at a reduced opacity so that it's much easier to position product that's in front of the camera and if so is it able to do this when the camera is in "Live View" mode? By the way I'm using a 1Ds III.

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Derryck

That is the only thing I miss about not using the Imacon back and Flexcolor.

Derryck - I do know that you can use the Overlay in the main Preview window on captures. We have not tried playing with Live View yet, so I'll have to get back to you on that. Live View is only with Phase One digital backs, so if all you use is the Canon, that's not an option anyway. May the force be with you.

Greg - The C1 download called C1 4.5 is actually C1 4.5 Pro. So anyone downloading C1 4.5 is actually getting Pro (works with DB's and DSLR's).


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« Reply #61 on: October 15, 2008, 08:19:50 pm »

Thanks for the quick feedback Steve. That's probably good enough for me because as far as I know the Canon software can't offer an overlay function and it's something that's extremely useful for still life photographers.
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« Reply #62 on: October 15, 2008, 08:19:52 pm »

Steve

Need your help.  I ran C1 V4.5 Pro and each time it starts, there is an error message panel titled" CaptureOne SessionPersistency" or something.  The software seems to run after that but when I click on Process it crashes.  If I clicked on Delete it also crashes.  I'm on XP SP3 shooting 1Ds MKIII.  Any idea what to look for?  I have removed and reinstalled to no avail.

Thanks.

Henry
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« Reply #63 on: October 15, 2008, 08:19:58 pm »

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Samuel:

I think it's possible that a new release of software which is different from an interface standpoint would seem less intuitive than a program you had been used to. I think if you give it some time, get used to it, and get used to everything you can do with it - particularly from an interface standpoint - you will find 4.5 very flexible and intuitive. Maybe not, but that is my experience so far.

True, the Color Editor should not be crashing, but are you saying that you preferred it as a separate program, rather than integrated into the main program? And we have been using Color Editor extensively both yesterday and today with no crashes on several computers, so interested in what is happening with yours.

I've sat through most of two C1 4.5 Pro seminars yesterday and today and I think there is quite a bit that is not so obvious that will delight you.

Also as far as speed, 4.5 should be as fast or faster than 3.7.9. Last night we exported a 380 MB file from a P65+ in 16 seconds on a Mac Pro.

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Steve my P25 Plus on my MacPro 2.66 8gb of ram at 16bit 128 mg file in 7 seconds . About 2 or 3 seconds better than Capture 4. So yes it is faster.

I played with the overlay a little bit and yes you can bring another file right on top of another one. Looks like a neat tool but i don't know it well enough yet.
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« Reply #64 on: October 15, 2008, 08:21:44 pm »

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In the View Window (where your preview is) while the hand tool is activated (and can be activated just by typing the letter H) you can double click the image and it will jump to 100%. Double click again and it is back to fit window. The nice thing about this is that the hand tool remains active so it means you don't have to go to zoom, then go to hand, then go to zoom, etc. You're at 100% and you can start panning right away.
That's fine, yes. Good improovement of V4... up from the first LE version. When zoomed in at 100% press space key and a window fades in showing where you are and allows to move to another part of the image without going back to "to fit". There are a lot of helpful features.

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To my complete surprise, lens corrections are also available for Schneider Digitar Lenses.
Already in the public version? Can't find it...

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While shooting the 35mm Digitar, we were able to remove the center filter completely and simply adjust vignetting so the corners were lightened, and then we could save that as a loadable pre-set.
Question here is... the lens was set to center, so without shift, no? Can the vignetting tool be shifted?
Problem with rudimentary vignetting tools is 1. the circle is not accurate and 2. the increase of noise.
For the accurate circle... I process my LCC shots as tifs, send them to Photoshop and use them as masks. The LCC shots represent the precise circle and amount of vignetting.
With regard to the increase of noise when brighten up the edges ... if possible I do "bracketing" (just a second shot one or two stops brighter for the edges). I already asked for an HDR function in the upcoming stitcher tool in C1 4.6(?) pro a few days ago as I think it would be a GREAT feature when we could blend shots from bracketing with the help of the LCC shots (as masks)... so we would have an "HDR anti vignetting stitcher" ;-)
But they did not seem to be interested so much...

Anyway... vignetting and distortion correction is new in C1 and maybe it's fine to have them in the software though both the tools are very basic.
What I really like is programmable keyboard and customization of the tools. Huge step!
The additional viewer window is still no serious substitution for the focus tab in V3x. Unfortunately. Indeed you can make the viewer small. But then, if you want to adjust something, the viewer window jumps behind the main window. So it does make sense with dual monitor. But not this way on a regular monitor or laptop.
That the software basically is great... yes, no doubt. So lots of pros. But still lots of cons as well.

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« Reply #65 on: October 15, 2008, 08:30:22 pm »

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Steve

Need your help.  I ran C1 V4.5 Pro and each time it starts, there is an error message panel titled" CaptureOne SessionPersistency" or something.  The software seems to run after that but when I click on Process it crashes.  If I clicked on Delete it also crashes.  I'm on XP SP3 shooting 1Ds MKIII.  Any idea what to look for?  I have removed and reinstalled to no avail.

Thanks.

Henry

Henry

I'm not a technical problem solver so I am going to be limited in what I can advise at least for a while. I have been playing with this software for 2 days and before September I had barely any knowledge of C1 at all, so I'm still playing catch-up to a degree.

I'm in a seminar now at one of my dealers - I'll show them your post and see if they have recommendations.

Steve Hendrix
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Henry - I did show this to the dealer's technical specialist at this seminar and he doesn't have a good recommendation at the moment. I would say as always with brand new software (especially software that took this long to come out) that I would recommend proceeding with care as far as the idea of using this for paying jobs is concerned until we get a sense of how it is faring out in unrestricted the real world.

In the meantime I would send this information to your local support mechanism (dealer, distibutor, or direct I guess depending on where you're located). I will forward this internally on my end and feed back any response).

Steve
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« Reply #66 on: October 15, 2008, 08:40:48 pm »

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Henry

I'm not a technical problem solver so I am going to be limited in what I can advise at least for a while. I have been playing with this software for 2 days and before September I had barely any knowledge of C1 at all, so I'm still playing catch-up to a degree.

I'm in a seminar now at one of my dealers - I'll show them your post and see if they have recommendations.

Steve Hendrix
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Thanks.  Can't ask for more.

Henry

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« Reply #67 on: October 15, 2008, 08:49:16 pm »

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I ran C1 V4.5 Pro and each time it starts, there is an error message panel titled" CaptureOne SessionPersistency" or something.  The software seems to run after that but when I click on Process it crashes.
Something like that? [attachment=8943:c1error.jpg]
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« Reply #68 on: October 15, 2008, 09:03:51 pm »

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Something like that? [attachment=8943:c1error.jpg]

Nope, like this one

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« Reply #69 on: October 15, 2008, 11:08:39 pm »

Thanks for your presence here Steve.
4.5 is processing my 1Ds3 files in about 5 seconds! Great!
Also, is there a way to sharpen the previews? They all look soft, even though when zoomed in the images are very sharp.

Thanks.

p.s. I am running vista with 5GB ram and 4.5 sings. Previews show instantaneously, etc.
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« Reply #70 on: October 16, 2008, 08:45:02 am »

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Thanks for your presence here Steve.
4.5 is processing my 1Ds3 files in about 5 seconds! Great!
Also, is there a way to sharpen the previews? They all look soft, even though when zoomed in the images are very sharp.

Thanks.

p.s. I am running vista with 5GB ram and 4.5 sings. Previews show instantaneously, etc.


Anybody else having trouble with the eye dropper tools..
My do not show up when I click them...???
Cannot use the eye dropper tool to check a white balance chart??
Can anybody verify it is just me??
Thanks

I think it is just me b/c works fine in main Computer..
trying to do a complete un-install of older 4.1 on computer to see if that helps..

Snook
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« Reply #71 on: October 16, 2008, 08:52:25 am »

And does anybody know how to access the individual R G B channels in curves and levels? Or was this feature removed? That was one of the nicest things c1 3 had and made it "pro"...
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« Reply #72 on: October 16, 2008, 09:04:15 am »

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And does anybody know how to access the individual R G B channels in curves and levels? Or was this feature removed? That was one of the nicest things c1 3 had and made it "pro"...


Has anybody been able to tether yet?
Have not heard anything about tethered operation which was one of the main things we were waiting for.
Can anybody comment.
Thanks
Snook
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« Reply #73 on: October 16, 2008, 09:28:22 am »

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Hi Nill.

I have XP SP2 on my 12" no-name laptop, I installed and activated the new version without a problem. I have no RAW files here at home, so I can see my new interface (huuh, will have to study these tutorial videos tomorrow to get an idea of what all this new stuff is all about), but I can't use it yet. Will try some D2x raw's tomorrow probably, hope it won't crash.

Tom


This is what I wanted to hear!  Now just need confirmation that the program does indeed work without issue....

XP Pro--- SP3 update has been a nightmare for me.  Totally crashed my main work computer and had to resort to going back to a restore point.  On a separate older laptop, I stupidly tried the SP3 update, which handily crashed that system so badly I had to wipe the computer and do a clean install of XP and all my software....  SP3 is not an option, though Vista Ultimate may be somewhere down the line....
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« Reply #74 on: October 16, 2008, 10:49:01 am »

All my H lenses show up as "Generic" in Lens Corrections, and the only profile I see in the list is for the Phase One 80mm.

I thought this has many lens profiles -- has anyone gotten this to work?

Thanks.
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« Reply #75 on: October 16, 2008, 11:02:27 am »

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All my H lenses show up as "Generic" in Lens Corrections, and the only profile I see in the list is for the Phase One 80mm.

I thought this has many lens profiles -- has anyone gotten this to work?

Thanks.

HELLO is there anybody in there????

TETHERED, HOW IS IT WORKING??????????
Snook
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« Reply #76 on: October 16, 2008, 11:04:38 am »

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I hadn't heard of him. I found his site; he's kind of a hack. I like his film pictures better than his Phase One pictures -- the Phase images don't communicate to me very well. I'm sure he's a nice guy though.

But I sure agree with him on his position in that Greenberg mess:

http://tinyurl.com/5w49tz

I think I am going to email Mark Tucker and ask him to come back to LL...you two can make a great read for everyone here!

Yair
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« Reply #77 on: October 16, 2008, 11:04:49 am »

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HELLO is there anybody in there????

TETHERED, HOW IS IT WORKING??????????
Snook


Tethered works too

Phase P25 plus and Phase body works fine with a 3 second from shot to preview. A little faster than before. Just a quick test but it seems to work with no issues at all. I am on 10.5 Leopard

Make that 2.5 seconds
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« Reply #78 on: October 16, 2008, 11:15:13 am »

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Anybody notice that it still says (Hot Folder) under camera??
What does this mean?
At home at the moment and could not try anything tethered...:+{
But just opening 4.5 I noticed it has Hot folder enabled still??? Also it does not say Pro anywhere in the info or Program?
Is this true or did I install wrong over my older 4.1.2??
Thanks for any information..

Snook

Hot Folder is used if you're using another program to actually tether (e.g. for Nikon). OR if you're manually moving images into the folder you are viewing. It just automatically views any new image in the viewed folder.

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« Reply #79 on: October 16, 2008, 11:17:53 am »

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just tried 4.5.....and i really have to say.....wow....the years of waiting were really not worth it at all....man am i glad i ditched this a long time ago....the only reason i even checked it out was to see if the tether support for the canons would work....and as of right now i am not sure i can make a good judgement...because i am still waiting for the files to come in....ooops there they are...it only took a minute or so for 4 files to come in....hey it is still faster then pulling polaroids....if that was still part of a digital workflow....crazy....

We've only had a limited chance to test Canons (as a dealer there is a ton for us to be doing with the new release), but so far we are tethering as fast as DPP tethers. If you're results are very different then in DPP I don't have a suggestion yet, but that's not our findings so far.

Maybe you're just not used to the slowness of USB tethering on a mac. That's a limitation from Apple and Canon.

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