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Henry Goh

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« on: September 11, 2008, 04:32:14 PM »

I'm considering buying a calibrator for profiling my Epson.  Is the Colormunki ready because earlier on I read a few negative posts about it, including Andrew Rodney's unhappiness with the software.  I really need to get something simple for this task.  As for monitor calibration, I've got the old Eye One display and it works fine for me.

Thanks for any fast replies.

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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2008, 04:04:59 AM »

no one using Colormunki?
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2008, 09:12:29 AM »

Hi,

Mine is working perfect...

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I'm considering buying a calibrator for profiling my Epson.  Is the Colormunki ready because earlier on I read a few negative posts about it, including Andrew Rodney's unhappiness with the software.  I really need to get something simple for this task.  As for monitor calibration, I've got the old Eye One display and it works fine for me.

Thanks for any fast replies.

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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2008, 12:52:07 PM »

Not sure about if the bugs have been resolved or not...i have been using mine for the past couple months on Tiger with no issues. Done several profiles that are really really good ones...

People may still have issues with either leopard or Vista though. I am happy with it.
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2008, 01:01:05 PM »

Thank you both.  I've ordered one from B&H a few hours ago.
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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2008, 08:48:41 PM »

Please let us know whether you think it makes high quality profiles.
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2008, 10:02:10 AM »

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Ditto, on this end, Leopard.
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2008, 10:06:33 AM »

UPS was late today so they will deliver tomorrow morning.  I should be able to run the software for the first time tomorrow night.  So far I have installed the software but without activating it, I won't know if there is any problem yet.
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2008, 10:09:47 AM »

I have just calibrated my Dell 2408 LCD panel with Colormunki.  It went without a hitch.  I tried both the EASY and ADVANCED modes and both are as straightforward.  I next profiled my Epson Stylus Pro 4000 with Premium Luster 250 paper.  I found the process simple and fast.  The resulting prints are also much better than the prints I made with Epson's canned profiles.  

The only thing I look forward to is for X-Rite to polish their software further.  Small improvements like allowing me to move the target area for the spectro would be nice since OSD for some monitors don't allow you to position the display off-centre and can be a little inconvenient when making adjustments.  Other than that, I'm most happy for what I have bought.  I had for so long wanted to buy the Eye One Photo to do this profiling but found prices to be high and read that scanning back the printouts from the printer to be tedious and slow.

I'm doing this on a PC running Windows XP SP3, Quad Core on ASUS P5Q-E, with 4Gb RAM, for those worrying about running Colormunki on Windows.
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2008, 10:21:17 AM »

Henry, thanks for that report. It's very encouraging.

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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2008, 08:37:27 AM »

No problems here also.

Instal was smooth, did 6 print profiles, haven't tested them yet but I'm sure they will be better than the canned profiles from the paper manufacturers. Running on 10.5.5.



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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2008, 09:19:24 AM »

Mike, once you've tested them please let us know your observations.

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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2008, 09:44:22 AM »

Mark,

Will do. I hope to have a few hours for myself this weekend and I'll lock the door of the studio and indulge in my twin pleasures......... Printing and Jack Daniel's........  



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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2008, 05:22:02 AM »

I've done a couple of prints this afternoon using the profiles I made with the ColorMunki.

First up was Hahnemuele Bamboo, never used this paper before so I've nothing to compare it to but the print was outstanding. Very happy with the result.

Next I used Ilford GFS, I have used quite a bit of this paper and had lots of problems with it. The profiles on Ilfords site (for the 5000) do not work well with the 5100 but a couple of forum members sent me the profiles they had made (Tom and Josh) which proved that the problem was I'm a tight Scottish b...... anyhow, the result is that the output using the profile made with the ColorMunki is excellent.

More testing later, time for the JD.




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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2008, 07:48:21 AM »

Mike, many thanks for taking the trouble of posting these results. It's beginning to sound better and better. I also work mainly with Ilford GFS these days and got a custom profile made, eventhough Ilford's profile for the Epson 3800 is not bad. Please do let us know your next set of results. I'm particularly interested in observations about how well it reproduces shadow detail and how reliably the colour and tonality of the prints compare with the display under soft-proof, assuming you are using a calibrated and profiled display at appropriate brightness level.

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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2008, 08:40:06 AM »

I have just finished profiling Epson Enhanced Matte paper.  I have always found the dark tone in this paper to be too sudden.  The dark tones jump to black quickly so you cannot get gradual darkening with the canned profiles.  After the CM profile was made, I printed a low key portrait and found the print to be much better and I'm getting nice gradual dark tones.  Although I rarely use this paper, I now have renewed urge to use this paper for some images.

Hope this is news worthy for some of you.
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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2008, 08:50:58 AM »

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Mike, many thanks for taking the trouble of posting these results. It's beginning to sound better and better. I also work mainly with Ilford GFS these days and got a custom profile made, eventhough Ilford's profile for the Epson 3800 is not bad. Please do let us know your next set of results. I'm particularly interested in observations about how well it reproduces shadow detail and how reliably the colour and tonality of the prints compare with the display under soft-proof, assuming you are using a calibrated and profiled display at appropriate brightness level.

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Mark,

My display is calibrated with an i1D2 but as its an iMac even on minimum brightness its still too bright. However I do feel a very good match between the display and the final print, not perfect but very good.

Like Henry said above I feel the prints I have done have a better transition to pure black (I mainly do B&W printing, film photographer here). On my monitor I can see detail in the dark areas that I want to preserve and now its there on the prints. Previously most of this was lost. As stated above the monitor is super bright so there is a slight difference here when soft proofing.

Over the next couple of day's I'll do tests with the other papers I have, Innova Smooth Cotton High White and Harman FB Al and I'll dig out some old transparencies for scanning to check the colour performance.


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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2008, 08:57:47 AM »

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I have just finished profiling Epson Enhanced Matte paper.  I have always found the dark tone in this paper to be too sudden.  The dark tones jump to black quickly so you cannot get gradual darkening with the canned profiles.  After the CM profile was made, I printed a low key portrait and found the print to be much better and I'm getting nice gradual dark tones.  Although I rarely use this paper, I now have renewed urge to use this paper for some images.

Hope this is news worthy for some of you.
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Yes, thanks Henry.
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2008, 08:58:46 AM »

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My display is calibrated with an i1D2 but as its an iMac even on minimum brightness its still too bright. However I do feel a very good match between the display and the final print, not perfect but very good.

Like Henry said above I feel the prints I have done have a better transition to pure black (I mainly do B&W printing, film photographer here). On my monitor I can see detail in the dark areas that I want to preserve and now its there on the prints. Previously most of this was lost. As stated above the monitor is super bright so there is a slight difference here when soft proofing.

Over the next couple of day's I'll do tests with the other papers I have, Innova Smooth Cotton High White and Harman FB Al and I'll dig out some old transparencies for scanning to check the colour performance.
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Sounds great - looking forward to your next set of results.
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2008, 09:37:50 AM »

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And yet, you and I have had discussions with associates that claim there's no way such quality could result from only 100 patches..... <G>
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