NEC 2690 vs 3090 & DVI-D

[marty m]

At first glance I assumed that the NEC 2690 is a higher quality graphics monitor since it is called a "spectraview" monitor and the 3090 is not.  Some of you own both, so what is your opinion?

The specs on the 3090 appear to be superior -- 97.8% aRGB coverage for the 3090 versus 93% for the 2690.  The 3090 has .25 dot pitch, and the 2690 has .287.  The image formation time is 12 ms for the 3090 versus 16 ms for the 2690.  (Not that these specs mean anything.  Those of you have actually used or seen both side by side could really comment on the difference.)

One point is not clear.  The 2690, like the Eizos, calibrates the monitor itself using the specrtraview software, rather than calibrating the video card.  

But the literature is not clear if the same is true for the 3090.  Does the software calibrate the 3090 monitor directly?  If not, how critical is that?

I own a DTP 94 as well at the Gregtag device that comes with the HP APS.  I assume that both work just fine with the NEC software, so all I have to order is the software?

Finally, I am a little confused by DVI-D versus DVI-I conections.  Does anyone know what type of connection is on a NVIDIA 8800 video card?  I know it can handle dual link for the higher resolution  But I need to order a longer cable.  I'm assuming that what I need is a longer DVI-D to DVI-D cable -- not a DVI-I cable.  Corrrect?

[Paul Sumi]

But the literature is not clear if the same is true for the 3090.  Does the software calibrate the 3090 monitor directly?  If not, how critical is that?
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Spectraview II software supports the 3090 and calibrates the monitor directly:

[a href=\"http://www.necdisplay.com/SupportCenter/Monitors/spectraview2/]http://www.necdisplay.com/SupportCenter/Mo...s/spectraview2/[/url]

I own a DTP 94 as well at the Gregtag device that comes with the HP APS.  I assume that both work just fine with the NEC software, so all I have to order is the software?
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The DTP 94 is supported by SVII and it is the colorimeter I use to calibrate my 2690.

Paul

[marty m]

Spectraview II software supports the 3090 and calibrates the monitor directly:

http://www.necdisplay.com/SupportCenter/Mo...s/spectraview2/
The DTP 94 is supported by SVII and it is the colorimeter I use to calibrate my 2690.

Paul
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Thanks very much for your response.  I didn't find that link.

Do you think both monitors are equal in terms of video quality for photo editing, with the only difference then being the size?

[Paul Sumi]

Thanks very much for your response.  I didn't find that link.

Do you think both monitors are equal in terms of video quality for photo editing, with the only difference then being the size?
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Unfortunately, I haven't seen the 3090 so I can't comment.  But I do like my 2690 very much for photo editing, although there was a bit of a learning curve in my transition from CRTs.

Paul

[Thomas Krüger]

I'm also happy with my 2690. Here is an extensive test of the NEC MultiSync LCD3090WQXi in german language with a lot of diagrams and graphics - or try the Google translation service:
http://prad.de/new/monitore/test/2008/test...cd3090wqxi.html

NEC has disabled the hardware calibration on the european models. Monitors sold in USA can be calibrated with the optional Spectraview II. So getting a a big 30 monitor in Europe the Dell 3008WFP with 95% Adobe RGB would be the better choice and a good answer to the NEC marketing.

Dell Ultrasharp 3008WFP  ~ 1500 Euro
NEC Multisync 3090WQXi ~ 1970 Euro

[msbc]

NEC has disabled the hardware calibration on the european models. Monitors sold in USA can be calibrated with the optional Spectraview II. So getting a a big 30 monitor in Europe the Dell 3008WFP with 95% Adobe RGB would be the better choice and a good answer to the NEC marketing.

I just want to clarify this - If I purchase a 2690 in Europe and SpectarviewII from the USA I won't be able to use the s/w to calibrate the monitor? Has someone tried and confirmed this?

[Czornyj]

I just want to clarify this - If I purchase a 2690 in Europe and SpectarviewII from the USA I won't be able to use the s/w to calibrate the monitor? Has someone tried and confirmed this?
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Spectraview II can hardware calibrate any pro 90 series Nec. A good answer to Nec marketing is to buy the "normal" Multisync and then to get the Spectraview II software from US.

Dell 3008WFP is an 8-bit LUT panel, so even without SVII software Nec3090 is better in color critical applications (not to mention, that it has color/brightenss uniformity compensation). I'd also recommend to study the shape of Nec vs Dell gamut.

[marty m]

Spectraview II can hardware calibrate any pro 90 series Nec. A good answer to Nec marketing is to buy the "normal" Multisync and then to get the Spectraview II software from US.
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Sorry that NEC screwed the Europeans, but it is good news for those of us in the US.

Do you all agree that the 3090 is equal to the 2690?  According to the specs (if I am translating them correctly) even superior?

I decided to get the 30" because I now have a standard 21" Wacom monitor.  I suspect that the 2690 has a little more real estate, but not that much.  

I am concerned about the 30" being too large -- but it should be great for Lightoom and Photoshop, and be able to see entire photos even with the tool boxes or side panels.

I am now using two NVIDIA 8800 GTS in an SLI configuration.  Of the four connectors on the two cards, one works for SLI.  I assume it will drive the 3090 to full resolution via a DVI-D Dual Link cable.

I'm wondering if one of the connectors could be used to drive an older Wacom Cintiq as well.  (That is getting a little dim but still works great as a touch Wacom tablet.)

But that is a 21" Wacom running at 1600 x 1200.  What happens if you try to run two drivers using the NVIDIA control panel either as clones or spanning?  Can they operate at different resolutions or not?

[Thomas Krüger]

Go with the 3090 - too large doesn't exist.  

@msbc: Prad.de confirmed with the test of the 3090 that the hardware calibration is disabled on european models. They will sell you the Spectraview version. Handpicked with LUT calibration through Spectraview. It just costs a bit more..

[juicy]

Go with the 3090 - too large doesn't exist.   

@msbc: Prad.de confirmed with the test of the 3090 that the hardware calibration is disabled on european models. They will sell you the Spectraview version. Handpicked with LUT calibration through Spectraview. It just costs a bit more..
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Hi,

Is this "handpicking" worth doubling the Multi Sync price in EU? And does NEC sell mostly some B- or C-class waste panels in the US or are there handpicked SV-versions in the US? Or is this handpicking just marketing BS?

Cheers,
J

[Czornyj]

Is this "handpicking" worth doubling the Multi Sync price in EU? And does NEC sell mostly some B- or C-class waste panels in the US or are there handpicked SV-versions in the US? Or is this handpicking just marketing BS?

Nec only knows...

On the other hand - I really like my mighty 2190UXi  (non-SV), calibrated with SpectraviewII.