backlit film

[EvoM]

Has anyone experience/success  printing on backlit film using the z3100?
My rep suggested you can't really profile this material using the spectro due to it's transparency so canned profiles are suggested...true? But he said you can indeed print on it successfully.  

Also, in reality, how successful is it? I would like to get as much vibrancy/strong colours and black blacks if possible...is it realistic using the z3100 inks and baclit film?

cheers, Evo

[Ernst Dinkla]

Has anyone experience/success  printing on backlit film using the z3100?
My rep suggested you can't really profile this material using the spectro due to it's transparency so canned profiles are suggested...true? But he said you can indeed print on it successfully.  

Also, in reality, how successful is it? I would like to get as much vibrancy/strong colours and black blacks if possible...is it realistic using the z3100 inks and baclit film?

cheers, Evo
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If the design to be printed doesn't need a realistic gamut you can use one of the media presets that lay down a lot of ink. See the data on inklimits in the PDF for non-HP media. I have used the Fine Art>250 grams media preset on an unknown brand backlit film (customer had it) that could hold that load of ink and dried it afterwards in the silkscreen dryer that happens to be in my shop. Used the OEM ICC profile that goes with it. But these prints were abstract designs with texts etc.

Like one can profile a monitor its should be possible to profile backlit film if the specs of the lamps that later on will be used to illuminate the backlit film are known. Specialist's work though.


Ernst Dinkla

Try: [a href=\"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wide_Inkjet_Printers/]http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wide_Inkjet_Printers/[/url]

[rdonson]

My experience is like your rep said, I couldn't profile it but I could print on it.  I used a generic profile like Ernst suggested.

[Lorenz]

hi everyone,

the printer is very, very well capable printing wonderfully dense backlit images. we have some 2100, 3100 and 6100 printers using the vivera inks. these ins are by far the best we have seen for this application as long as you will keep the following in mind:

1) media - the vivera inks are NOT compatible with most of the backlit media out there – drying of the ink ist the issue you will run into most likely. my suggestion is to stay with the premium vivid color material from hp.

2) profiles – the "canned" profiles from hp are actually quite good - and should be sufficient for must users. if NOT – the only way to get decent results is to profile the media using a measuring device like the Barbieri Spectro LFP RT that works wonderfully for transparent media like backlit

btw - we are printing several thound square meters of backlit each month with a fleet of 6100s :-)

bye,

lorenz

[EvoM]

Thanks guys, especially Lorenz for this info. I have found  a great deal on some generic backlit that is supposed to be pigment & dye compatible but will tread carefully and test before getting a 44 inch roll! good to know the canned HP profile will work too.

Evo

hi everyone,

the printer is very, very well capable printing wonderfully dense backlit images. we have some 2100, 3100 and 6100 printers using the vivera inks. these ins are by far the best we have seen for this application as long as you will keep the following in mind:

1) media - the vivera inks are NOT compatible with most of the backlit media out there – drying of the ink ist the issue you will run into most likely. my suggestion is to stay with the premium vivid color material from hp.

2) profiles – the "canned" profiles from hp are actually quite good - and should be sufficient for must users. if NOT – the only way to get decent results is to profile the media using a measuring device like the Barbieri Spectro LFP RT that works wonderfully for transparent media like backlit

btw - we are printing several thound square meters of backlit each month with a fleet of 6100s :-)

bye,

lorenz
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