Topic: lcd - best bang for the buck (Read 11906 times)

heinrichvoelkel · « **on:** July 08, 2008, 03:06:20 pm »

I know this is the perpetuum mobile, but I'm looking into buying a LCD monitor. I wouldn't mind if it is only 19, 20 or 22 inches wide, but I want to have, at least some, good and relaible color.

How are the Dell...? Or is there a "cheap" eizo or Nec around.

My budget is limited at the moment....

Thanks in advance

Czornyj · « **Reply #1 on:** July 09, 2008, 03:15:58 am »

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I know this is the perpetuum mobile, but I'm looking into buying a LCD monitor. I wouldn't mind if it is only 19, 20 or 22 inches wide, but I want to have, at least some, good and relaible color.

How are the Dell...? Or is there a "cheap" eizo or Nec around.

My budget is limited at the moment....
Thanks in advance
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Nec 1990SX

heinrichvoelkel · « **Reply #2 on:** July 09, 2008, 04:51:44 pm »

thanks, how about the dell 2408?

Thomas Krüger · « **Reply #3 on:** July 09, 2008, 04:57:32 pm »

NEC Multisync 2690WUXi
http://www.tftshop.net/product_info.php/products_id/682

DarkPenguin · « **Reply #4 on:** July 09, 2008, 04:59:18 pm »

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NEC Multisync 2690WUXi
http://www.tftshop.net/product_info.php/products_id/682
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I'm curious what you would have suggested if he said his budget was not limited.

Thomas Krüger · « **Reply #5 on:** July 10, 2008, 02:24:58 am »

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I'm curious what you would have suggested if he said his budget was not limited.
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Eizo CG301W
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The View · « **Reply #6 on:** July 10, 2008, 04:20:05 am »

Just for the record: what's BANG for you?

So we know what BANG you want for your BUCK.

heinrichvoelkel · « **Reply #7 on:** July 10, 2008, 07:13:31 am »

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Just for the record: what's BANG for you?

So we know what BANG you want for your BUCK.
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Bang: good, quality panel; good color; color manageable; even illumniation; size less important, but would prefer 22 or 21 inches widescreen;

Buck: I guess around 450 €, a little less would be apprecciated

Sunesha · « **Reply #8 on:** July 10, 2008, 07:47:59 am »

Eizo S2231 is nice I use to my small studio setup. After calibration it is very good. Around your price range also.

Not as CG eizo range but I think it is good enough. I dont worry when I work with it at least

digitaldog · « **Reply #9 on:** July 10, 2008, 08:59:24 am »

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I'm curious what you would have suggested if he said his budget was not limited.
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The 2490 would be less and in this instance preferable.

Czornyj · « **Reply #10 on:** July 10, 2008, 09:03:42 am »

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The 2490 would be less and in this instance preferable.
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The 2490 - for some mysterious reason - is unavailable in Europe.

Thomas Krüger · « **Reply #11 on:** July 10, 2008, 11:10:31 am »

The NEC LCD2470WNX (24") is sold for 629,00 € at TFTshop.net in Germany. Using the north american version of the Spectraview software you will get a very good calibration.

For other monitors you can browse the website www.prad.de for reviews etc., here is a link: http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/kaufberatung/grafik20.html

Czornyj · « **Reply #12 on:** July 10, 2008, 12:26:09 pm »

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The NEC LCD2470WNX (24") is sold for 629,00 € at TFTshop.net in Germany. Using the north american version of the Spectraview software you will get a very good calibration.

For other monitors you can browse the website www.prad.de for reviews etc., here is a link: http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/kaufberatung/grafik20.html
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2470WNX is not supported by Spectraview II. It's a simple 8 bit LUT panel for office work, without the possibility of hardware calibration.

heinrichvoelkel · « **Reply #13 on:** July 10, 2008, 04:46:23 pm »

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2470WNX is not supported by Spectraview II. It's a simple 8 bit LUT panel for office work, without the possibility of hardware calibration.
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Guys, thank you for your suggestions, but I'm playing in the 400 euro league at the moment...

is a Dell 2208 worth the money?

Czornyj · « **Reply #14 on:** July 10, 2008, 05:30:53 pm »

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Guys, thank you for your suggestions, but I'm playing in the 400 euro league at the moment...

is a Dell 2208 worth the money?
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In ~400 euro league I'd recommend two panels:

Nec 1990SX - with 12 bit programmable LUT, possibility of precise hardware calibration, electronic brightness uniformity compensation, and all controls you'll ever need.
In comparison to 1990SXi it has PVA - not S-IPS panel, and lacks colorcomp (but to be honest, personally I didn't like "colorcomp" and switched it to "uniformity" in my 2190UXi)
This is definetly the cheapest panel on the market with such advanced controls.

If you prefer something less profesional, but a little bigger - take Eizo S2231. It's a 10 bit LUT panel, with increased gamut - it doesn't have so many sophisticated controls like x90 series Nec, but may be good enough, and pretty solid.

heinrichvoelkel · « **Reply #15 on:** July 13, 2008, 05:45:48 am »

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In ~400 euro league I'd recommend two panels:

Nec 1990SX - with 12 bit programmable LUT, possibility of precise hardware calibration, electronic brightness uniformity compensation, and all controls you'll ever need.
In comparison to 1990SXi it has PVA - not S-IPS panel, and lacks colorcomp (but to be honest, personally I didn't like "colorcomp" and switched it to "uniformity" in my 2190UXi)
This is definetly the cheapest panel on the market with such advanced controls.

If you prefer something less profesional, but a little bigger - take Eizo S2231. It's a 10 bit LUT panel, with increased gamut - it doesn't have so many sophisticated controls like x90 series Nec, but may be good enough, and pretty solid.
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Thanks for the advice, exactly what I was hoping for.

Would you have some advice on a second scrren for tools, pallets, etc. Not too different from the color calibrated main screen....? Or will any do?

Henry Goh · « **Reply #16 on:** July 13, 2008, 06:03:43 am »

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thanks, how about the dell 2408?
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I had been waiting for the NEC 2690 WUXI but bought the DELL 2408 and am really happy.

Czornyj · « **Reply #17 on:** July 13, 2008, 08:33:07 am »

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Thanks for the advice, exactly what I was hoping for.

Would you have some advice on a second scrren for tools, pallets, etc. Not too different from the color calibrated main screen....? Or will any do?
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If you really want a panel, that will be "not too different", buy two same panels. What is most important - panels should be the same height and vertical resolution. Personally I'm using 2x21" - Nec 2190UXi as a main screen, and Samsung 214T as a tools screen. For me it works pretty well, but to be honest - I'd be happier having 2xNec 2190UXi.

If you'll take Nec 1990SX - Nec 1970NXp (MVA matrix) should serve good enough as a tool panel, but controls in inexpansive, office LCD panels are always very limited, so there's no chance to get the same look.

It's even worse with the Eizo S2231 - there's no 19" S-PVA wide gamut panels on the market, so anything else will really look different. Of course - if you can live with some differencies, Eizo S1921 or Nec 1970NXp should be ok as a tool panel.

Thomas Krüger · « **Reply #18 on:** July 13, 2008, 09:13:44 am »

If you want to go shopping for Nec, the american Spectraview v 1.0.42 to calibrate the monitor via LUT tables supports these monitors:

LCD1980SXi – 19” LCD monitor
LCD1980FXi – 19” LCD monitor
LCD1990SX – 19” LCD monitor
LCD1990SXi – 19” LCD monitor
LCD1990SXp – 19” LCD monitor
LCD2090UXi – 20” LCD monitor
LCD2180UX – 21” LCD monitor
LCD2190UXi – 21” LCD monitor
LCD2190UXp – 21” LCD monitor

supported color sensors:
GretagMacbeth Eye-One Display V1
X-Rite/GretagMacbeth Eye-One Display V2
X-Rite/GretagMacbeth Eye-One Monitor Eye-One Pro
GretagMacbeth Spectrolino
ColorVision/Datacolor Spyder 2
Datacolor Spyder 3

Czornyj · « **Reply #19 on:** July 13, 2008, 10:13:45 am »

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If you want to go shopping for Nec, the american Spectraview v 1.0.42 to calibrate the monitor via LUT tables supports these monitors:

LCD1980SXi – 19” LCD monitor
LCD1980FXi – 19” LCD monitor
LCD1990SX – 19” LCD monitor
LCD1990SXi – 19” LCD monitor
LCD1990SXp – 19” LCD monitor
LCD2090UXi – 20” LCD monitor
LCD2180UX – 21” LCD monitor
LCD2190UXi – 21” LCD monitor
LCD2190UXp – 21” LCD monitor

supported color sensors:
GretagMacbeth Eye-One Display V1
X-Rite/GretagMacbeth Eye-One Display V2
X-Rite/GretagMacbeth Eye-One Monitor Eye-One Pro
GretagMacbeth Spectrolino
ColorVision/Datacolor Spyder 2
Datacolor Spyder 3
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1980FXi and 2180UX are dicontinued, 1990SXi is no longer available, while 1990SXp was never available in Europe. 2090UXi and the rest are much more expansive.

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