Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: Vincent Laforet Article  (Read 2359 times)

Craig Murphy

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 312
    • http://www.murphyphotography.com
Vincent Laforet Article
« on: July 07, 2008, 09:32:22 am »

Since there in no business area on LL I'll do it here.   I would just like to post this link to another discussion about Laforets article where there is some criticism to read.  Its over on Rob Haggert's site APA.

http://aphotoeditor.com/2008/07/03/nothing...-photographers/
Logged
CMurph

sergio

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 666
    • http://www.sergiobartelsman.com
Vincent Laforet Article
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2008, 10:18:44 am »

In times of crisis cannibalism takes over. It is the way capitalism works, so Vincent is right when he proposes not to have all your eggs in one basket. Ultra specialization is a symptom of a highly stable and rich society, neither of which will last long enough in our small finite world. I also agree with him when he says many photographers will end up doing something else.

The problem with getting older in this or any profession is that your overhead each day gets bigger, you think your work is worth more, that you should charge more, and you everyday start getting less but bigger clients. The small gigs that make pocket cash vanish and you start working on bigger things. The downside of this is that it means having fewer clients, and when one leaves it makes a bigger dent in your finances.

In times of crisis it is sensible to be very ¨light¨. Keep your overhead down, buy only what is indispensable in equipment, rent the rest if available, be creative instead of gear dependent. Having big expensive studios is a no no, unless you are busy everyday, it is better to rent them (have somebody else maintain and pay for them). And in my humble opinion, try to be different in your work, try to develop a unique way of seeing the world thru your lens. Develop a personal way of doing photography. That will affect you bottomline positively more than spending your energy,money and time in technology and magnifying glasses to look at pixels.

Things are getting rough in the US and the world these days. I don´t agree with Vincent Laforet when he says that the crisis will last for a couple years and thats it. It is my personal and humble belief (don´t make flame wars out of this, its just my opinion, nothing more, nothing less), that this crisis will last more than our lifetimes. So it is best to spend our energy wisely. We live in a linear fashion in a universe that is stubbornly ciclical. We pretend our resource base is infinite, and our planet obviously isn´t. We think of nature as something cute, from which we take raw materials and where we dump our trash in. That shortsightedness is what has thrown us into this situation.

I agree with Vincent that video will take a bigger place in media, but it won´t replace photography. As I read in Craig´s link, you can read a full story from a photograph with just a fast glimpse. Video you have to sit down and spend a lot more time to do it. The same way we still use pencil and paper to write down things, even though we have computers. The same reason why there are still grand pianos being made, when you could have the very best samples in your electronic keyboard.

But the profession of the photographer will change and dramatically in the very short term. And above the clouds, could be even more clouds, not necessarily blue sky.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2008, 10:21:18 am by sergio »
Logged

dalethorn

  • Guest
Vincent Laforet Article
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2008, 02:20:34 pm »

The crisis will last until we have a solution for overpopulation - more and cheaper food, more and cheaper energy, more and cheaper healthcare, etc.  Looks like a long wait.  On the still -vs- video, don't judge by today's interface and program standards.  Sooner or later, someone will introduce common, cheap (or free) software that plays either or both, at the same time or separately, or blended in different ways.  The free Irfanview software I use for display and printing is a step in this direction.
Logged

Rob C

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 24074
Vincent Laforet Article
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2008, 04:36:46 pm »

The changes have been going on for quite a long time already, at least in the UK they have been.

I started photographic life in the photo unit of one of the country´s biggest engineering companies. I left there at the end of ´64 and within a few years the unit was gone. God knows what happened to the rest of the guys who worked beside me. Newspapers were also shedding staff photographers many years ago with work going out to freelances or pictures simply not being used. So nothing new that couldn´t be seen coming if anyone had bothered to stop and look.

And there´s the rub: the profession has been such an odd one for so long that nobody really seems to expect much from it, the very few who make it big sort of proving the rule by being the exception, as it were. I had a friend who, around ´81, had a son just out of university and he was trying to help him on his way into a worthwhile career. The boy had expessed interest in photography, so they went to see one of those gurus who advise well-educated folks on career choices. When photography was raised, he said no, that in the whole of Britain there were perhaps a dozen guys making the sort of money from photography that a good degree would guarantee in other disciplines.

And that´s the trouble. Those of us who do go into it often do so knowing from the start that there is the dream of the bigtime and also the reality of small-town social work - if you get lucky.

No wonder our industry has problems: who in hell else starts a business where the rewards are so few and far between? Idiots like some of us.

I have often been asked why I went into photography. The standard reply is that it was all I ever wanted to do. And that´s the truth. But it doesn´t stop there either. One half of my family is involved with surveying and also the business of selling property. The attitude there, insofar as surveying is concerned, is that it makes not a jot of difference if one is surveying a hundred shit-houses or a palace. The bank looks on the fee from either job with unbiased approval. No prizes for guessing which part of the family has run the S Classes for as long as I can remember, and whose wife the SLK.  If you need assistance, it ain´t the photographic part! But in photography, at least for me, it does matter like hell what the job is. That was the whole point: self expression and doing something worthwhile with life.

Even back in the 60s I remember talking to an art buyer at Glasgow´s biggest ad agency and trying to impress with my book. Yes, Rob, your work is great! Okay, I asked, then why haven´t you used me much? We use Studio X, was the reply, they don´t do as good as your stuff but they are much cheaper. And that was the roarin´ 60s! I rest my case: the job always sucked. Even if you managed to make a decent living from it as I eventually did by moving, sideways like a crab, and getting myself into design and production of calendars, both as ways of keeping the cameras at work and of doing something more interesting than the crap that was all that remained of the available work during the 70s.

So the shortage of work isn´t news for many of us - there was perhaps just enough to keep some of us going - a couple of specialists in cities like Glasgow and maybe Edinburgh doing fashion and advertising... again, God knows what the many others found to do. Weddings? Some did that and did well; I could not do that work for many reasons.

So yes, hard times are here but then they always were; maybe they just got harder and the costs of running a business now have also hit the ceiling. Perhaps the answer to the problem of too many photographers chasing too little work is the same as it is for the population at large: we need a cull if there is to be enough work or food.

Rob C

dalethorn

  • Guest
Vincent Laforet Article
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2008, 05:30:14 pm »

I'm not conversant with what other people have experienced in their careers, but if the photo profession has been Hollywooded into non-profitability, no surprise.  But since I worked with a few people in the movie business, I can guess about the craziness of fast-moving opportunity, and don't even mention ethics.  If you're willing to move into H'wood and hang out for a few years doing odd jobs for low pay, opportunities do come along.  I've had some jobs doing executive portraits, customizing clipart for manufacturers, other things forgettable.  One thing I would *seriously* advise anyone to do if they want to survive as little fish in big pond - learn the computer inside and out, and get every useful utility you can to make resource management easier.  You can be good at LR and PS, but so are the other guys.  But those guys probably aren't good at other details that you can scoop them on.
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up