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Frank Doorhof

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« on: June 10, 2008, 02:17:06 am »

Hi,
Normally I'm one of those photographers that doesn't use a Mac but a PC.

However for working on location I'm now seriously looking into a Macbook Pro due to the powered firwire connection.
I'm now using a PC but I'm growing tired of dragging all my cables and extra powersupplies with me (no powered firewire on a PC laptop).

This weekend I taught two workshops in LA and the PC did hold up but due to different locations we had to move alot arround with all those wires.

Perfect would be one laptop with one cable going to the back and working from battery power.

However when I think about the time I would need the power on it would be anything from 3-6 hours on locations were we shoot.
I know there are extra batteries for the macs (as for the PC of course) but I wonder if anyone here has any experience with the battery time of a macbook pro and a leaf aptus back.

It would run ONLY the leaf software and the back and the display probarbly on full power.

the configuration I'm looking into would be a :

macbook pro (lowest CPU)
4GB mem
320GB HDD

The screen is the second question, they have the option non glare and gloss.
I guess for the workshops the non glare is perfect due to the better viewing angle and the better performance for difficult locations.
But I love to hear from the experts.

Hope someone can help.

Greetings,
Frank
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2008, 02:25:02 am »

Hi Frank,
Not a direct reply to your question, but a couple of small points. If you're getting a MBP, you can only get a max 250Gb HDD (a 5400rpm drive), however, you'd be far better of with the 200GB 7200rpm drive.

Secondly, if you get the 2.5GHz model, you get more graphics memory (important when handling these big files!) and you get more cache.

Memory; Don't buy Apple's extortionately price memory; Get just 2Gb, go to crucial and buy the 4Gb kit, and replace what comes in your Apple; you can't 'upgrade', you need to remove existing and replace, but it's far, far cheaper to do the third party upgrade.

I find that with the MBP connected to the P45, but using battery on the P45, I won't get near 6 hours, even with BT & Wireless turned off, and fairly conservative power settings. I certainly wouldn't get anywhere near that with the back drawing power. I find it easier on location just to use multiple batteries in the back, if I can't plug the MBP into the mains.

On the subject of screen, I have the matte screen. Haven't use their glossy screen, but this one appears to have very accurate colour representation (once calibrated), and is generally a joy to use. On location I have a Lastolite easyview, which it gets popped in, and when I move, I just lift the whole easyview. Never had a problem examining images in the brightest light.

So, sorry not to answer your question, but I hope there's something of some small value here.

PS that second goal was absolutely stunning!

Cheers
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Frank Doorhof

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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2008, 02:59:17 am »

Hi,
I missed soccer because I'm still in LA, I taught two workshops this weekend, I will be back next week.

I will buy the most downstripped unit, the HDD and memory will be upgraded by my wife (she has a computer shop and has all the materials).
 
The Leaf cannot run on both battery and firewire, that's one of the problems I run into on location.
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2008, 03:15:38 am »

I have used the 15" MBP with my A17 quite a lot. With a battery in good standing I was able to get about 3-4hours of shooting. The back does eat up battery time which you will notice (I guestimate it takes of at least an hour of usage). My battery was getting worse after about 6months and after 1 year of usage I needed to get a new one.

The 17" MBP had the problem it would not be able to start up the back when the battery power was below 50%. I have never had this problem with the 15" though I never was foolish enough to start a job with a lot less than 30% in my 15"

Get the cheapest version of the MBP and buy HDD's and memory somewhere else like Johnstewart suggests.

I use the glossy screen which I love. Outside it sucks just a bit more than the non-glossy. You have to be more directly behind it to get a good view but the non-glossy is also optimal when viewed directly. Get one of those tent-like things if outside viewing is important and with these you have to directly in front of the laptop to be able to see the screen. But... the images really pop on the glossy screen and have an instant wow factor which is helpful when you have people looking over your should (clients). I know I am one of the few that actually dared to get the glossy one
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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2008, 03:34:27 am »

thanks
The upgrades will be done by my wife so that was already decided.

Most of the time it's students watching over my shoulder, so more groups so I think the non glare will be better.
I saw the glossy one and that was indeed a bit more contrasty than the non glare, but the non glare was not so bad and I had the idea that the angle of view was MUCH better on the the non glare, but I had to look in a few minutes so it was a bit hard to really decide.

3 hours battery power with the aptus would be fine, one extra battery and we are on 6 what I would love, so that will work.

When I'm back in the netherlands I will probarbly order.
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2008, 03:48:22 am »

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I use the glossy screen which I love. Outside it sucks just a bit more than the non-glossy. You have to be more directly behind it to get a good view but the non-glossy is also optimal when viewed directly. Get one of those tent-like things if outside viewing is important and with these you have to directly in front of the laptop to be able to see the screen. But... the images really pop on the glossy screen and have an instant wow factor which is helpful when you have people looking over your should (clients). I know I am one of the few that actually dared to get the glossy one
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I have one glossy too. The contrast and color is wonderful. But don't get it if you have small children or if you think people (maybe clients) will touch the screen.  The fingerprints on the glossy screen are horrible really! Not easy to clean either.
You will be abe too see the screen in bright light too but it's like a mirror.

I like the glossy a lot, and I'm confortable because I mostly use it in controlled light enviroments but if you're gonna be outside often I'd get the normal LCD with a shade.


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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2008, 04:32:54 am »

OK, just did a test, as I was interested to know how long my MacBook Pro would last on "battery mode".
I have a 2.2GHZ, 4 GB, 120GB 5400rpm, LED screen. The machine is 6 months old.
Kept the screen brightness to 1/2 during shooting.
Used an Aptus75 on Mamiya 645 AFDII
Managed to shoot for 1 hour and 35 minutes, and got 264 shots uncompressed, with "bursts" of 5 to 10 shots at the time, followed by a slight pause.
Leaf Capture was the only software open.

Hope that gives you an idea.
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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2008, 09:19:20 am »

Thank you that is very usefull info, so on full brightness probarbly an hour.
So will take a few spare batteries with it

I think the non glare screen will be the choice than, I will be using a shade for the screen. Although I am doubting now lol.
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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2008, 09:35:49 am »

Frank,

You might not have to move to a Mac. See fraherim's post here:
http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....showtopic=25849

Cheers,
Kumar
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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2008, 09:49:04 am »

Frank-

Try adding one of these to the MBP to increase the battery power- also it means you won't have to turn the computer off to switch batteries, etc.

http://www.batterygeek.net/BG_18_21_111_Ex...batterygeek.htm


Still not a bad idea to have a 2nd battery though... but the one thing I don't like about batteries is that you have to stop shooting, disconnect the software, turn off the computer, swap batteries, and then restart everything. I'd rather just run off one long-lasting battery.

Or try using the Dynalite battery pack (or the Innovatronix, or a Vagabond battery) to power the computer via mobile AC power. I haven't tested my MBP on the Innovatronix yet, but I need to do that to see how long it will run.
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« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2008, 01:52:39 pm »

Frank also consider color management with a glossy is going to be different. You can use the exact same icc profile as one of your other pc's and it will look different, in fact all laptop screens are like this, when I used to do some retouching for a portrait photog I once gave her the icc profile I was using on my apple cinema for her macbook pro and even though it was non glossy there still was a color shift due to the different display. Overall with some patience and tweaking you can get them real close, the glossy may be a whole other nightmare though.
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« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2008, 02:02:27 pm »

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....I used to do some retouching for a portrait photog I once gave her the icc profile I was using on my apple cinema for her macbook pro and even though it was non glossy there still was a color shift due to the different display.......

There's no reason why your cinema display profile would work with her MacBook Pro built-in display?
The LCDs (8-bit panel vs. 6-bit panel) and backlighting are completely different.
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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2008, 12:11:17 am »

Every monitor should be calibrated ICC profiles can never be exchanged between machines, change your videocard and you can start over again.

I do run from a PC now with a powered firewire hub but that's were the problem lies.

I now have:
1 laptop with power supply
1 cable to my hub
1 powersupply for the hub
1 cable from hub to camera

And I can not work on location without power, unless I take an explorer with me.

With the Mac I could just run on the battery and one cable and take one or two extra batteries, that changes ALOT :-), especially when going abroad.
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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2008, 12:40:55 am »

I know several people who use the 2Power Universal Notebook battery with success.

It gives 4-6 hrs shooting and sits flat under the laptop (or serves as a mousepad). Needs a bit of DIY (and a flight adapter from Apple) to connect it to the Magsafe socket, though...

Yair
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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2008, 01:14:33 am »

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Every monitor should be calibrated ICC profiles can never be exchanged between machines, change your videocard and you can start over again.

I do run from a PC now with a powered firewire hub but that's were the problem lies.

I now have:
1 laptop with power supply
1 cable to my hub
1 powersupply for the hub
1 cable from hub to camera

And I can not work on location without power, unless I take an explorer with me.

With the Mac I could just run on the battery and one cable and take one or two extra batteries, that changes ALOT :-), especially when going abroad.
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In his post [a href=\"http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=25849]http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....showtopic=25849[/url] fraherim is talking about an Alienware notebook with a powered 9-pin Firewire port.
The Alienware Area-51 m15x has a powered 9-pin port, while 17-in model has a 1394a and a 1394b port.
See: http://www.alienware.com/products/area-51-...ode=SKU-DEFAULT
I assume you could get a 6-pin to 9-pin adapter. Then it would work in a similar way to an MBP - the last three items on your list would be eliminated. And since you're already familiar with PC, no extra learning curve!

Cheers,
Kumar
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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2008, 01:20:27 am »

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I know several people who use the 2Power Universal Notebook battery with success.

It gives 4-6 hrs shooting and sits flat under the laptop (or serves as a mousepad). Needs a bit of DIY (and a flight adapter from Apple) to connect it to the Magsafe socket, though...

Yair
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i havnt bought one, but these inc the magsafe socket, and are cheaper per watt-

[a href=\"http://www.batterygeek.net/Batterygeek_net_MacBook_MacBook_Pro_Battery_Packs_s/78.htm]http://www.batterygeek.net/Batterygeek_net..._Packs_s/78.htm[/url]

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« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2008, 05:34:20 pm »

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i havnt bought one, but these inc the magsafe socket, and are cheaper per watt-

http://www.batterygeek.net/Batterygeek_net..._Packs_s/78.htm

paul
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We use the battery geek batteries here and have been very impressed, 4/5 hours powering a macbookpro.

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