Processing techniques

[ChrisJR]

Being a photography student, I'm always trying to learn new things but I would love to learn how images such as these: http://www.pbase.com/manny_librodo/vietnam08 (the first one especially) are processed.

I love the effect and have noticed some of the MFDB members here use techniques to get a similar effect. Is it a case of de-saturating and increasing contrast or is there some other way of achieving this effect.

Chris.

[DarkPenguin]

That isn't the Dragan technique, is it?

[ChrisJR]

Looks very similar but after searching since I posted the message it appears I was looking for painting with light, as used by Jill Greenberg amongst others.

Thanks

Chris

[tomrock]

Those are really some great pictures. Good luck.

[The View]

Being a photography student, I'm always trying to learn new things but I would love to learn how images such as these: http://www.pbase.com/manny_librodo/vietnam08 (the first one especially) are processed.

I love the effect and have noticed some of the MFDB members here use techniques to get a similar effect. Is it a case of de-saturating and increasing contrast or is there some other way of achieving this effect.

Chris.
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Great photos!

DEsaturating?

It looks very saturated to me.

[ChrisJR]

Great photos!

DEsaturating?

It looks very saturated to me.
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Apparently it's about creating different layers, one de-saturated, another overly saturated and sometimes another b&w and then masking them in together. Spent the last day trying to figure this technique out but completely stuck

[The View]

Where did you hear about this? Any source?

[Andy M]

Manny is a very nice guy, and offers quite a few photo courses - why not contact him?

His style isn't to my taste, but I can see why people like it

[ChrisJR]

Manny is a very nice guy, and offers quite a few photo courses - why not contact him?

His style isn't to my taste, but I can see why people like it
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If he did a workshop here I would most definitely attend it but I have already contacted him and unfortunately not had a reply yet.

[The View]

Manny is a very nice guy, and offers quite a few photo courses - why not contact him?

His style isn't to my taste, but I can see why people like it
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It's not about someone's style, but to know about a technique, that one can use to sharpen one's own style

[maxgruzen]

Being a photography student, I'm always trying to learn new things but I would love to learn how images such as these: http://www.pbase.com/manny_librodo/vietnam08 (the first one especially) are processed.

I love the effect and have noticed some of the MFDB members here use techniques to get a similar effect. Is it a case of de-saturating and increasing contrast or is there some other way of achieving this effect.

Chris.
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Hey Radders if you you run across any info on this technique please post it. It's really very nice.

[ChrisJR]

Hey Radders if you you run across any info on this technique please post it. It's really very nice.
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Hi, one of the best tutorials I found for this technique is at [a href=\"http://www.metacafe.com/watch/735941/dragan_effect_photoshop_tutorial/]http://www.metacafe.com/watch/735941/draga...oshop_tutorial/[/url] It's not 100% accurate but gets you very close. Also, I found dpreview has some excellent tips on this technique, particularly the ones by Pam R in the discussion forum (type in Dragan, look for Pam R). http://porg.4t.com/kcdragan.html rounds up these techniques from dpreview in one go.

[maxgruzen]

Hi, one of the best tutorials I found for this technique is at http://www.metacafe.com/watch/735941/draga...oshop_tutorial/ It's not 100% accurate but gets you very close. Also, I found dpreview has some excellent tips on this technique, particularly the ones by Pam R in the discussion forum (type in Dragan, look for Pam R). http://porg.4t.com/kcdragan.html rounds up these techniques from dpreview in one go.
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Thanks Radders, I'll check it out and let you know how successful I am.

[The View]

Imitating other people's photography isn't a great thing, and always looks like an imitation.

The original Dragan photography is true Polish, catholic photography - I mean the other side of the coin of catholicism.

PS: If you want to look at truly sick looking photography, go for Joel Peter Rifkin.

[Wolfman]

Imitating other people's photography isn't a great thing, and always looks like an imitation.

The original Dragan photography is true Polish, catholic photography - I mean the other side of the coin of catholicism.

PS: If you want to look at truly sick looking photography, go for Joel Peter Rifkin.
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You mean Joel Peter Witkin: [a href=\"http://www.edelmangallery.com/witkin.htm]http://www.edelmangallery.com/witkin.htm[/url]

[Jeremy Roussak]

You mean Joel Peter Witkin: http://www.edelmangallery.com/witkin.htm
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OK, I've looked and thought and I give up. What on earth is he for?

Jeremy

[ChrisJR]

Imitating other people's photography isn't a great thing, and always looks like an imitation.

The original Dragan photography is true Polish, catholic photography - I mean the other side of the coin of catholicism.

PS: If you want to look at truly sick looking photography, go for Joel Peter Rifkin.
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When I started this post, I wasn't necessarily interested in copying his technique, I was more interested in learning how he gets his contrasty look and then possibly utilising parts of that technique into my post processing. I believe I've pretty much cracked his technique but for the images I've been producing recently his technique definitely doesn't work for me.

I prefer the processing techniques of someone like Jill Greenberg but again I don't want to copy her work, just interested in learning how people achieve their looks.

[BruceHouston]

We all copy each other's techniques, from birth to death.  If we didn't, we would never even learn to talk, let alone learn our complex professions.

Beware of false premises.  "If you buy the premise, you buy the bit."

[maxgruzen]

Hey Radders, Thanks for sharing this tread about Manny with us.  His work and his technique is new to me, and like you I just want to learn how to do things in PS. Im' 69 and I've been a photographer for 65 years, don't know squat, and been copying others all my life. My work however is unique to me.

[jjj]

Hi, one of the best tutorials I found for this technique is at http://www.metacafe.com/watch/735941/draga...oshop_tutorial/ It's not 100% accurate but gets you very close.
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That's a very poor tutorial with a shockingly clumsy workflow and the end result is pants too.  And as for the wretched clicking noise    
Also Dragan's work looks like HDR work to me, which is a very different technique.