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Re: Ken Rockwell's Fifteen Feet - Portrait Lenses
« Reply #160 on: June 09, 2013, 06:03:26 PM »

Why are people wasting any time discussing Ken Rockewell's nonsense? Much of his writings are a blight on the photographic community and are just plain factually incorrect. Not just misguided opinion, but plain wrong. When cornered he bleats..."Just kidding".

You might as well be debating with a Flat Earther. Let's move on from giving his useless blather even one more moment of exposure here.

Michael
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Re: Ken Rockwell's Fifteen Feet - Portrait Lenses
« Reply #161 on: June 09, 2013, 11:59:44 PM »

Why are people wasting any time discussing Ken Rockewell's nonsense? Much of his writings are a blight on the photographic community and are just plain factually incorrect. Not just misguided opinion, but plain wrong. When cornered he bleats..."Just kidding".

You might as well be debating with a Flat Earther. Let's move on from giving his useless blather even one more moment of exposure here.

Michael
Amen!
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Re: Ken Rockwell's Fifteen Feet - Portrait Lenses
« Reply #162 on: June 10, 2013, 12:39:39 AM »

Why are people wasting any time discussing Ken Rockewell's nonsense? Much of his writings are a blight on the photographic community and are just plain factually incorrect. Not just misguided opinion, but plain wrong. When cornered he bleats..."Just kidding".

You might as well be debating with a Flat Earther. Let's move on from giving his useless blather even one more moment of exposure here.

Michael

I agree 100%.  Plus, your post made me laugh out loud.
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Re: Ken Rockwell's Fifteen Feet - Portrait Lenses
« Reply #163 on: June 10, 2013, 06:23:53 AM »

Once again, you are making an assumption that every photographer's wet dream is to become a measurbator.
I think that this is a derogatory term that tends to cause derailing of discussions.

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Re: Ken Rockwell's Fifteen Feet - Portrait Lenses
« Reply #164 on: June 10, 2013, 07:08:44 AM »

Unfortunately this thread hasn't been the poster's "finest hour" and possibly he will think again about his contribution?  :(

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Re: Ken Rockwell's Fifteen Feet - Portrait Lenses
« Reply #165 on: June 10, 2013, 11:02:22 AM »

I think that this is a derogatory term that tends to cause derailing of discussions.

-h

Guess who invented the term ;)


P.S. Btw, I consider myself a card-carrying member of the measurbators club
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Re: Ken Rockwell's Fifteen Feet - Portrait Lenses
« Reply #166 on: June 10, 2013, 11:16:40 AM »

Unfortunately this thread hasn't been the poster's "finest hour" and possibly he will think again about his contribution?  :(

Not sure if you are referring to me, but if you are, I will gladly admit I've been "rethinking" my participation (not contribution) even before I jumped into the fray. I knew perfectly well that walking into a church and telling people there is no God, is, as a minimum, futile. And yet, against my better judgment, I did it, hoping, (in vain, as it turns out) that we can at least tolerate, if not respect, people with different opinions and approaches than our own. The amount of venom and name calling I got in return speaks more about the "strength" of your arguments than the arguments themselves.

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Re: Ken Rockwell's Fifteen Feet - Portrait Lenses
« Reply #167 on: June 10, 2013, 05:06:16 PM »

Who gives a sh*t about autofocus on macro lenses? They aren't designed for fast AF - due to the long focus throw. "Some" AF is handy if you are using the lens as a short-telephoto general purpose lens, and in most conditions the typical s-l-o-w AF is fine, particularly if you help the lens by using the focus limiter.
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Re: Ken Rockwell's Fifteen Feet - Portrait Lenses
« Reply #168 on: June 10, 2013, 05:24:32 PM »

Not sure if you are referring to me, but if you are, I will gladly admit I've been "rethinking" my participation (not contribution) even before I jumped into the fray. I knew perfectly well that walking into a church and telling people there is no God, is, as a minimum, futile. And yet, against my better judgment, I did it, hoping, (in vain, as it turns out) that we can at least tolerate, if not respect, people with different opinions and approaches than our own. The amount of venom and name calling I got in return speaks more about the "strength" of your arguments than the arguments themselves.

I'm glad you jumped into the fray Slobodan so I wouldn't have been alone.  Thanks.  Alan
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Re: Ken Rockwell's Fifteen Feet - Portrait Lenses
« Reply #169 on: June 11, 2013, 03:47:12 AM »

Thinking of getting married? ;) ;D  Smiley's added to convey a humorous intent. :)

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Re: Ken Rockwell's Fifteen Feet - Portrait Lenses
« Reply #170 on: June 11, 2013, 04:13:11 AM »

Why are people wasting any time discussing Ken Rockewell's nonsense? Much of his writings are a blight on the photographic community and are just plain factually incorrect. Not just misguided opinion, but plain wrong. When cornered he bleats..."Just kidding".
He's Mister Cop-Out with that line.

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You might as well be debating with a Flat Earther. Let's move on from giving his useless blather even one more moment of exposure here.
He's like the photography equivalent of the UK's Daily Mail newspaper with their disregard for facts, hypocrisy and controversial nonsense - but it's the newspaper website with the highest no. of page views in world now apparently.
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Re: Ken Rockwell's Fifteen Feet - Portrait Lenses
« Reply #171 on: June 11, 2013, 06:16:17 AM »

He's Mister Cop-Out with that line.
He's like the photography equivalent of the UK's Daily Mail newspaper with their disregard for facts, hypocrisy and controversial nonsense - but it's the newspaper website with the highest no. of page views in world now apparently.

You know what's the most viewed
Teevee chanel here?
Tv5
You know who owns tv5?
Berlusconi...
Have you ever seen the content they
Provide?
Check it out...
It's worth

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« Reply #172 on: June 11, 2013, 06:37:05 AM »

Still lurking in case a few more wagons happen to ride into the crash site and dismantel...

You know who owns tv5?
Berlusconi...
You sure? Wiki says something else, and Berlusconi did own LaCinq a while ago, which was ohyeahgodawwwwful, exactly the kind of please-do-not-use-your-brain content at the core of the topic (TV channels are usual suspects for that), but pushed to the extreme...
I don't watch any teevee since two decades and so won't comment on TV5.
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Re: Ken Rockwell's Fifteen Feet - Portrait Lenses
« Reply #173 on: June 11, 2013, 11:54:04 AM »

Still lurking in case a few more wagons happen to ride into the crash site and dismantel...
You sure? Wiki says something else, and Berlusconi did own LaCinq a while ago, which was ohyeahgodawwwwful, exactly the kind of please-do-not-use-your-brain content at the core of the topic (TV channels are usual suspects for that), but pushed to the extreme...
I don't watch any teevee since two decades and so won't comment on TV5.
Niko, not the french tv5, the spanish one.
I'm french but currently live in Madrid.

Spanish tv5 belongs to mediaset that belongs
To fininvest that belongs to Berlusconi.

You have no idea about the level of crapperies
Non-sense, polemic, low profile programs, I
Mean you have to see it to beleive it.
Verdict: high audience.


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Re: Ken Rockwell's Fifteen Feet - Portrait Lenses
« Reply #174 on: June 11, 2013, 12:09:59 PM »

Thinking of getting married? ;) ;D

Well, since Ken is already married, I had to move on... ;D

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Re: Ken Rockwell's Fifteen Feet - Portrait Lenses
« Reply #175 on: June 11, 2013, 05:54:11 PM »

Nope, not going to happen (a retraction), as there are some seriously stupid, closed minded people who actually believe what I wrote is true and can't grasp a fact based reality.
It's not about whether or not the analogy is accurate. There is a view that using the holocaust analogy in (relatively) trivial circumstances trivializes the holocaust. That was certainly my reaction when I read your post. I am sure it wasn't your intention.

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Re: Ken Rockwell's Fifteen Feet - Portrait Lenses
« Reply #176 on: June 11, 2013, 06:03:03 PM »

It's not about whether or not the analogy is accurate. There is a view that using the holocaust analogy in (relatively) trivial circumstances trivializes the holocaust. That was certainly my reaction when I read your post. I am sure it wasn't your intention.

There's nothing trivial about the holocaust or people who don't believe it, or people who can't fathom the idea of fact based reality which some here subscribe. And I'll further point out that I have distant relatives who lost their lives in holocaust! Maybe you do, maybe you don't but don't read into my analogy I believe this is trivial.
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Re: Ken Rockwell's Fifteen Feet - Portrait Lenses
« Reply #177 on: June 11, 2013, 06:30:49 PM »

There's nothing trivial about the holocaust or people who don't believe it, or people who can't fathom the idea of fact based reality which some here subscribe. And I'll further point out that I have distant relatives who lost their lives in holocaust! Maybe you do, maybe you don't but don't read into my analogy I believe this is trivial.
I wasn't reading any such thing into your analogy, as an attentive reading of my post will make clear. The view I am alluding to that proper respect for the exceptional gravity of the holocaust makes it unseemly to refer to it simply to make an argument about Ken Rockwell, or any other matter as relatively unimportant as that. It is a fact that some people will react in that way, as I did. Doing so doesn't imply anything about your views on the holocaust. What is at issue is your choice of analogy. For me, it came across as "over the top" and hence as detracting from the force of your argument (with which I otherwise agree).
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Re: Ken Rockwell's Fifteen Feet - Portrait Lenses
« Reply #178 on: June 11, 2013, 07:08:31 PM »

I think we should pattent this thread and
Sell the all content to a Berlusconi tv.
They would buy it.
With the benefits we all share,
We all go to a still workshop
Given by KR.

Michael included who needs to pulish
His skills in jpeg capture
And sRGB printings.
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Re: Ken Rockwell's Fifteen Feet - Portrait Lenses
« Reply #179 on: June 11, 2013, 10:25:41 PM »

Nice conclusion!
And sorry for my mistake - yes I've seen Berlusconi in action with LaCinq. F***godawful.
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