Pages: 1 ... 5 6 [7] 8 9   Go Down

Author Topic: Hy6 Users here?  (Read 63986 times)

jing q

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 596
    • we are super
Hy6 Users here?
« Reply #120 on: March 31, 2008, 05:15:42 pm »

Quote
Sounds like you have had bad experience with your kit and the way it has been dealt by your dealer and the distributor in your LATIN country  

I can only speak for Leaf here as I've been dealing with LATIN countries for a few years now

In EAMER, AP, Japan and Latin America countries we do not have a chained channel, meaning that the person you buy the kit from deals directly with Leaf and not via a distributor.

More than 50% of our dealers are trained to a level that allows them to handle 80% or repair cases, basically anything that doesn't require a sensor being replaced. The backs are designed with this in mind and these people can replace the whole electronics package within a few hours and have it all re-tested and re-calibrated "while-you-wait".

In US the channel is quite different but the MAC group and Leaf America are doing a great job in taking care of support and service nation-wide. They also take care of repairs states-side.

I understand your frustration about "their bad" but still what do they do when you're on set on location and the software crashes or the camera won't boot up? Who do you call? Mon-Fri 8am-5pm Pacific doesn't cover a lot of grounds for outside-US customers...

Yair
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=185639\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

Leaf here in the US is absolutely fabulous (thank you rick) but the points mentioned by eronald do ring true to a certain extent.
I believe most of asia pacific is handled by the Hong Kong dealer for Leaf, which means any repairs need to go through them. Can you confirm this?

Dealers usually don't have the items in stock straight away, they need to order from their distributors.
I'm not surprised if B&H ships faster to asia than waiting for a local dealer to supply you with a pricey piece of equipment

The prices I see for a lot of different brands of equipment are also jacked up to the point where it's about 20-50% more than the price I can get directly in New York, which makes it almost worthwhile to just buy a second backup piece of equipment.

A local dealer CAN lend you a replacement back but whether he WILL is another matter.
Does Leaf or Sinar have any policy that is worldwide that allows a customer to borrow a spare back from their dealer in the event of repairs for their own back?


And speaking from having my 75S not work properly over 7 months until recently,
when my back breaks chances are I pick up my Canon, I don't have the luxury to sit around and make a phone call to my 9-5 dealer who can't do anything apart from tell me to bring it in for repairs.
Logged

Graham Mitchell

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2281
Hy6 Users here?
« Reply #121 on: March 31, 2008, 06:07:47 pm »

Quote
A pro camera should be black, period.
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=185862\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

I have to agree.
Logged

yaya

  • Guest
Hy6 Users here?
« Reply #122 on: March 31, 2008, 06:25:02 pm »

Quote
A pro camera should be black, period.

« Last Edit: March 31, 2008, 06:26:27 pm by yaya »
Logged

BJNY

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1112
Hy6 Users here?
« Reply #123 on: March 31, 2008, 06:28:06 pm »

Quote
Great bokeh

You stole my line  
Logged
Guillermo

eronald

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6642
    • My gallery on Instagram
Hy6 Users here?
« Reply #124 on: March 31, 2008, 06:29:40 pm »

Quote
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=185883\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

This is terrible, Yair has grown a sense of humor. AAAAAARRRRRGGGHHHHHH.

I had forgotten Hassy made throw-away cameras

Edmund
« Last Edit: March 31, 2008, 06:34:14 pm by eronald »
Logged
If you appreciate my blog posts help me by following on https://instagram.com/edmundronald

eronald

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6642
    • My gallery on Instagram
Hy6 Users here?
« Reply #125 on: March 31, 2008, 06:32:08 pm »

deleted (dupe)
« Last Edit: March 31, 2008, 06:33:35 pm by eronald »
Logged
If you appreciate my blog posts help me by following on https://instagram.com/edmundronald

bryanyc

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 98
Hy6 Users here?
« Reply #126 on: March 31, 2008, 06:33:08 pm »

First, thanks for the replies about the finder: it wasn't clear to me and it was not stated on the Sinar site.  I didn't mean to start a scuffle about the 45 finder (heh heh heh  ) - and the answer truly shows how....whatever.... the execution of this multi party collaboration is.  Oh, you'd like that finder in black to match your camera:   .

In fact there is one more issue regarding the 45 finder.  When I saw the camera with the 45 finder at the nyc camera show I thought I heard that the rotating back will not work with it.  Is this so?
« Last Edit: March 31, 2008, 06:34:50 pm by bryanyc »
Logged

BJNY

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1112
Hy6 Users here?
« Reply #127 on: March 31, 2008, 06:54:27 pm »

Examine my snapshot of the blue grey 45º prism,
and you'll see there's no clearance for a digital back to revolve.
However, according to Thierry the 90º finder will allow it.
« Last Edit: March 31, 2008, 07:09:26 pm by BJNY »
Logged
Guillermo

Leonardo Barreto

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 379
    • http://leonardobarreto.com/
Hy6 Users here?
« Reply #128 on: March 31, 2008, 06:56:15 pm »

How are you going to rotate the back with that finder? It looks to me as if it is going to get in the way of a rotating back...
Logged
[font=Comic Sa

mcfoto

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 940
    • http://montalbetticampbell.com
Hy6 Users here?
« Reply #129 on: March 31, 2008, 06:57:27 pm »

Quote
I don't know about the costs, but I'm telling, you Leaf and Sinar boys need to buy some spray paint and pimp that thing black because it doesn't look very cohesive.

[attachment=5850:attachment]
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=185827\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

Hi James
What type of L bracket are you using as I am thinking of getting on for our Mamiya AFD. How do you find working with it.
Thanks Denis
Logged
Denis Montalbetti
Montalbetti+Campbell [

James R Russell

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 992
    • http://www.russellrutherford.com/
Hy6 Users here?
« Reply #130 on: March 31, 2008, 07:26:32 pm »

Quote
Hi James
What type of L bracket are you using as I am thinking of getting on for our Mamiya AFD. How do you find working with it.
Thanks Denis
[{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


It's really right stuff and it's magic.

With their 55 ball head it snaps on and off from vertical to horizontal as fast as you can move you hands.

Well built and dead solid perfect.

I have them on all my cameras, (except the Leica).

[a href=\"http://reallyrightstuff.com/home.html]http://reallyrightstuff.com/home.html[/url]



JR
« Last Edit: March 31, 2008, 07:27:37 pm by James R Russell »
Logged

thsinar

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2066
    • http://www.sinarcameras.com
Hy6 Users here?
« Reply #131 on: March 31, 2008, 08:26:59 pm »

Sorry James, as informed in my earlier post, Sinar has never had or shown a 45° finder with this color: the one Sinar will deliver is of the exactly same color as the camera, thus cohesive.

Best regards,
Thierry

Quote
I don't know about the costs, but I'm telling, you Leaf and Sinar boys need to buy some spray paint and pimp that thing black because it doesn't look very cohesive.

[attachment=5850:attachment]
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=185827\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
Logged
Thierry Hagenauer
thasia_cn@yahoo.com

James R Russell

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 992
    • http://www.russellrutherford.com/
Hy6 Users here?
« Reply #132 on: March 31, 2008, 08:36:13 pm »

Quote
Sorry James, as informed in my earlier post, Sinar has never had or shown a 45° finder with this color: the one Sinar will deliver is of the exactly same color as the camera, thus cohesive.

Best regards,
Thierry
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=185924\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]


Theirry,

I think you need to get that Dick Tracy watch fixed.

I think it took you more than 25 minutes to spot this.

BTW:  What color/colour is the Sinar HY6?

Is it black, black and blue, grey, grey and blue, or  . . . .?

And Yair, how many shades of medium grey to dark black is the AFI, cause everytime I see it posted it looks different?

JR
Logged

thsinar

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2066
    • http://www.sinarcameras.com
Hy6 Users here?
« Reply #133 on: March 31, 2008, 08:44:13 pm »

James,

it happens that I just woke up (see "User's local time" to get an idea when) and kept the topic "Hy6" for my last reading: otherwise I would have spotted it in 5 minutes!

But don't worry, all this shall change in a week of time.

This being said, I find your activity here also quite remarkable, those last weeks!

 

To have an idea of the Sinar Hy6 color:

http://www.sinarcameras.com/

Best regards,
Thierry


Quote
Theirry,

I think you need to get that Dick Tracy watch fixed.

I think it took you more than 25 minutes to spot this.

BTW:  What color/colour is the Sinar HY6?

Is it black, black and blue, grey, grey and blue, or  . . . .?

And Yair, how many shades of medium grey to dark black is the AFI, cause everytime I see it posted it looks different?

JR
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=185928\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
« Last Edit: March 31, 2008, 10:39:18 pm by thsinar »
Logged
Thierry Hagenauer
thasia_cn@yahoo.com

Carl Glover

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 139
    • http://www.alephstudio.co.uk
Hy6 Users here?
« Reply #134 on: March 31, 2008, 08:50:22 pm »

My Hy6 is black and dark grey. It looks good in the flesh. Having lots of fun with it in Tokyo.

Thierry, is there going to be a cable release for this camera in the near future?

I'm using the self timer with mirror up for longish exposures which is ok, but I miss what the Rollei cable on the 6008 could do - very useful indeed.

thsinar

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2066
    • http://www.sinarcameras.com
Hy6 Users here?
« Reply #135 on: March 31, 2008, 08:52:47 pm »

BTW,

April 01st today (here in Bangkok): be aware of and careful with any announcement!

 

Thierry
Logged
Thierry Hagenauer
thasia_cn@yahoo.com

BJNY

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1112
Hy6 Users here?
« Reply #136 on: March 31, 2008, 08:53:08 pm »

I asked the same thing earlier.  Perhaps Thierry is still looking into it?

Quote
How about the little things like short & long electronic cable releases when one doesn't want to fire the camera from the software/computer?
Logged
Guillermo

thsinar

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2066
    • http://www.sinarcameras.com
Hy6 Users here?
« Reply #137 on: March 31, 2008, 08:54:06 pm »

Dear Carl,

yes, there is a cable release in preparation, but I have no ETA as for now (see also my addendum and answer to Billy's question above).

Best regards,
Thierry

Quote
My Hy6 is black and dark grey. It looks good in the flesh. Having lots of fun with it in Tokyo.

Thierry, is there going to be a cable release for this camera in the near future?

I'm using the self timer with mirror up for longish exposures which is ok, but I miss what the Rollei cable on the 6008 could do - very useful indeed.
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=185932\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
Logged
Thierry Hagenauer
thasia_cn@yahoo.com

thsinar

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2066
    • http://www.sinarcameras.com
Hy6 Users here?
« Reply #138 on: March 31, 2008, 08:55:54 pm »

Answered, Billy.

Was trying to get an ETA, but couldn't.

Thierry

Quote
I asked the same thing earlier.  Perhaps Thierry is still looking into it?
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=185934\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
Logged
Thierry Hagenauer
thasia_cn@yahoo.com

BJNY

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1112
Hy6 Users here?
« Reply #139 on: March 31, 2008, 09:04:33 pm »

This modular finder system from Pentax is close to perfection in my opinion:

[attachment=5855:attachment]

I should have sent this to F&H, but didn't have a contact
so I made this suggestion to Jenoptik about a year ago
since Rollei's past 90º finders were either dark or had distortion.
Let's hope the upcoming 90º finder is better by far.
« Last Edit: March 31, 2008, 09:14:26 pm by BJNY »
Logged
Guillermo
Pages: 1 ... 5 6 [7] 8 9   Go Up