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« on: March 12, 2008, 04:20:18 pm »

Hi,
Soon I will be back to Los Angeles for a two day workshop I will be teaching.

Last year I did alot of shooting in the area arround LA and tried to remember and write down were I shot what.....
Well it worked a little bit, expect in the desert and Joshua tree park.

I know there is a way to add GPS information to the files.
As far as I know Sony has a unit that will work but it will only add the information to JPEGs.

I shoot with both a 5D/1DsIII and a Leaf digital back.
I would love the following.

A GPS units (small) that is synced with the time on my cameras.
When I get back in the hotel at the end of the day I would like to download the GPS unit and sync this with the RAWs of my cameras (in lightroom or any other programm).

Anyone an idea ?

Greetings,
Frank
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2008, 04:29:34 pm »

How about an H3DII with the new GPS accessory?

Writes GPS data into each file, no need for extra step!    

There is a bit of software that will let you sync generic GPS dara to TIF files but I can't remember the name right now.      I'll have a look around and see if I can find it at home.

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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2008, 05:12:01 pm »

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Hi,
Soon I will be back to Los Angeles for a two day workshop I will be teaching.

Last year I did alot of shooting in the area arround LA and tried to remember and write down were I shot what.....
Well it worked a little bit, expect in the desert and Joshua tree park.

I know there is a way to add GPS information to the files.
As far as I know Sony has a unit that will work but it will only add the information to JPEGs.

I shoot with both a 5D/1DsIII and a Leaf digital back.
I would love the following.

A GPS units (small) that is synced with the time on my cameras.
When I get back in the hotel at the end of the day I would like to download the GPS unit and sync this with the RAWs of my cameras (in lightroom or any other programm).

Anyone an idea ?

Greetings,
Frank
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There are a couple of ways of doing this. I have a Garmin Forerunner (on a wristband, designed for running, biking, etc.). I turn on the Garmin and make sure it's tracking before I start shooting, and shut it off after I finish. Then I download the GPS tracks to a specific folder on my computer, via the workout tracking software that came with the unit. I use Downloader Pro to transfer camera shots from a CF to the computer. It knows where to look for the GPS tracks. Downloader then compares the time a shot was taken to the GPS location for that same time, and adds that location to the EXIF for the shot.

The advantages to that setup are that I could use just about any kind of GPS reciever, and nothing has to get attached to the camera. Also, I used Downloader before I tried the GPS tagging, because it has some very sophisticated sorting and file naming capabilities to help keep my shots organized. The GPS link is just icing on the cake. The downside of this process is that I have to go through the steps to load the GPS tracks, in addition to pulling the shots off the CF.

The Sony unit works much the same way. You trun it on and make sure it's recording, shoot as normal, then the Sony software takes care of pulling the GPS tracks off the GPS unit, and tagging your shots accordingly. Not sure if it handles raw or not. At first, it only worked with files generated by Sony cameras, but I think that is no longer the case.

There are also units that plug into certain cameras. That eliminates the extra step of loading GPS tracks into the computer, but will draw power from the camera batteries, and is tied very tightly to specific hardware. So it probably wouldn't work for both the DB and the DSLR. You'd probably be better off with the Sony unit, or a generic GPS and something like Downloader. Does your DB have an internal clock? None of this will work unless the images contain a time stamp in their EXIF.
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2008, 06:31:48 pm »

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Hi,
Soon I will be back to Los Angeles for a two day workshop I will be teaching.

Last year I did alot of shooting in the area arround LA and tried to remember and write down were I shot what.....
Well it worked a little bit, expect in the desert and Joshua tree park.

I know there is a way to add GPS information to the files.
As far as I know Sony has a unit that will work but it will only add the information to JPEGs.

I shoot with both a 5D/1DsIII and a Leaf digital back.
I would love the following.

A GPS units (small) that is synced with the time on my cameras.
When I get back in the hotel at the end of the day I would like to download the GPS unit and sync this with the RAWs of my cameras (in lightroom or any other programm).

Anyone an idea ?

Greetings,
Frank
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If you are on Mac Photolinker will do that [a href=\"http://oregonstate.edu/~earlyj/gpsphotolinker/]http://oregonstate.edu/~earlyj/gpsphotolinker/[/url] and Aperture has the ability to view on map, so it opens google maps at the co-ordinates. I use gps all the time saves a lot of time when you need to add keywords like location etc.I think it works with dng files, it works well with my 1DsmkII raws.
My gps is a Garmin 60csx.

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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2008, 06:33:36 pm »

Hi,
Downloading from two devices is no problem at all.

I will be using two cameras and my cameras will be downloaded during the day on an image tank which will be emptyed at night on my laptop were the merging of the files and GPS data should take place.

Downloader pro is from Breeze am I correct ?
The problem with the breeze software was/is that it doesn't support my Leaf files.
I used it ALOT when I only shot canon, now I haven't renewed my licence because I did not use it anymore
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2008, 06:35:24 pm »

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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2008, 06:43:30 pm »

Thanks yaya,
Will it write the data in the Leaf RAW's ?
I don't want to convert everything to jpeg for using it.
And after that will for example lightroom use it ?

Sorry for the many questions but this is 100% new material for me.
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2008, 06:53:34 pm »

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Downloading from two devices is no problem at all.

I will be using two cameras and my cameras will be downloaded during the day on an image tank which will be emptyed at night on my laptop were the merging of the files and GPS data should take place.

Downloader pro is from Breeze am I correct ?
The problem with the breeze software was/is that it doesn't support my Leaf files.
I used it ALOT when I only shot canon, now I haven't renewed my licence because I did not use it anymore
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That's the rub I guess. A lot of the GPS taggers that I see springing up lately will only attach coordinates to jpg files. The Breeze products will at least work with the common DSLR raw formats, but you're out of luck if yours isn't one of them. Breeze is pretty responsive to customer input; maybe you could ask them to add the ability to tag Leaf files. It's not like you need them to write an entire raw converter, just something to tag the EXIF.

As mentioned by Kevin, you could do the same thing with Photolinker, assuming you have a Mac.

Whatever you pick, make sure you do extensive testing; it took me a couple of tries before I comepletely understood every piece of the puzzle.
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2008, 03:30:54 pm »

https://www.adorama.com/ISWPTCD110BP.html

Bought this one, it will support the RAW for Canon and the Leaf aptus.
So exactly what I wanted
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2008, 05:48:14 pm »

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https://www.adorama.com/ISWPTCD110BP.html

Bought this one, it will support the RAW for Canon and the Leaf aptus.
So exactly what I wanted
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Let us know how it works out. Not much info to be had on it at the moment.
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2008, 05:59:50 pm »

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Let us know how it works out. Not much info to be had on it at the moment.
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[a href=\"http://www.gisteq.com/phototrackr.php]http://www.gisteq.com/phototrackr.php[/url]

and

http://www.gisteq.com/PhotoTrackrPro.php for the Pro U/G that enables RAW support.

Looks promising

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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2008, 06:33:10 pm »

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http://www.gisteq.com/phototrackr.php

and

http://www.gisteq.com/PhotoTrackrPro.php for the Pro U/G that enables RAW support.

Looks promising

y
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Yes. I'm anxious to hear what users think after working with it in the field.

I'm still using my no cost solution, but I'd consider buying one of these if it would make the whole process more efficient.
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2008, 03:15:08 am »

I hope to receive it in 3-4 days and will do some testing than.
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2008, 03:30:26 am »

Put the review on my blog on www.doorhof.nl/blog
But there is a very bad development at the moment.
Although their site claims that the Leaf files are supported, they are not

I got confirmation from Gisteq that they want to refund my money but I think that has no use because I do want to use it anyway but now have to find a solution myself

So the RAW's from my 5D are supported but the Leaf are not.
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2008, 06:36:22 am »

GeoSetter is freeware, works also with raw files via ExifTool.
http://www.geosetter.de/en/index.html

You can use any GPS logger like for example the Wintec WBT-201, see http://www.semsons.com/datalogger.html
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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2008, 06:49:20 am »

thanks but that one also doesn't support the RAW files from the Leaf.
It also doesn't import the GPS data files from the Gisteq and it crashes on my Vista64 installation

The software from the Gisteq is great, with DNGs it works flawless, so for the time being I will use that.

I know leaf is already talking to gisteq to try to solve it.
GREAT support I think, let's hope they can help because the package is wonderful and works even under Vista64.
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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2008, 10:43:20 am »

Please report your problems to Friedemann Schmidt - email: support at geosetter.de - or fill in a bug report at http://www.geosetter.de/mantis/my_view_page.php
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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2008, 12:29:09 pm »

Hi,
At the moment I won't do that because I simply have not the time for testing more than one program, sorry.
I first want to know what Leaf and Gisteq can come up with and for the time being working with DNG is fine.
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