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DHead

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« on: March 01, 2008, 07:57:33 pm »

I am stumped.

I have color calibrated my monitor. I bring a picture into either Lightroom or CS3 with a color space of ProPhoto. Picture looks great in either.

I have turned off ICM in my Canon i9900 and told it to let Photoshop or Lightroom to control the colors. I am using the Canon SP1 printer profile.

The resulting prints have a blue cast to them. Same result using Lightroom or Photoshop.

Anyone have an idea what is wrong?

Thx
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2008, 10:30:54 am »

What paper are you printing to? And are you using a custom profile?
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2008, 10:52:29 am »

Yes, I am using the Canon SP1 profile for their Photo Paper Plus paper



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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2008, 11:01:50 am »

You might right having a custom profile made.
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2008, 11:06:23 am »

But I have used this profile in the past and it has worked fine.

I guess I may have to go pay some $ and get a printer calibrator  


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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2008, 11:10:36 am »

Are you sure you're not double-profiling? I don't have my Canon driver software handy at the moment, but I think turning ICM off like you said should take care of that. I'd double-check that before profiling.

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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2008, 11:24:16 am »

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But I have used this profile in the past and it has worked fine.

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I have the same issue with a Canon iP6700D and a magenta hue.
I had a custom profile made and it did not really fully cure it.
The only solution has been to make a level adjustment in CS3 with Red channel at 0.95 and Blue channel at 0.99.
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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2008, 12:00:15 pm »

Yup, I have double checked that ICM is turned off.

I would hate to have to compensate for this in the software as it means I would have to keep two copies of every file and/or make additional adjustments everytime I print on the i9900.

What gets me is that it used to print fine.

I wonder if I should replace all of the ink carts before trying profiling?
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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2008, 12:19:02 pm »

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I have the same issue with a Canon iP6700D and a magenta hue.
I had a custom profile made and it did not really fully cure it.
The only solution has been to make a level adjustment in CS3 with Red channel at 0.95 and Blue channel at 0.99.

Your monitor profile is bad then. Properly made monitor and printer profiles will solve this.
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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2008, 12:42:16 pm »

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Are there any other variables? Are you printing just fine to other printers and or paper combinations? I assume it's the print that has the blue cast, not the display?
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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2008, 12:49:40 pm »

Hi!

Which rendering intent are you using? MP1-profile for Canon's cheap matte photo paper (MP-101)  makes a fairly bluish/magenta hue when using perceptual (IP5300 printer). On the other hand relative intent does not have this problem.

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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2008, 01:22:00 pm »

Yes, it is the print that has the blue cast, the monitor looks fine.


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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2008, 01:26:19 pm »

How old is your printer?

A color cast is sometimes the result of a nozzle issue.  Wear on the head/nozzles can also cause some color drift which can be compensated for with a new profile.

Just a thought.
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2008, 01:31:40 pm »

I use perceptual but have tried relative and get the same blue cast

I haven't tried other printers yet (don't have one).


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Hi!

Which rendering intent are you using? MP1-profile for Canon's cheap matte photo paper (MP-101)  makes a fairly bluish/magenta hue when using perceptual (IP5300 printer). On the other hand relative intent does not have this problem.

Cheers,
J
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2008, 01:33:45 pm »

Printer is about 3 years old. I'm thinking I may have to invest in a printer calibrator as you suggest.

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How old is your printer?

A color cast is sometimes the result of a nozzle issue.  Wear on the head/nozzles can also cause some color drift which can be compensated for with a new profile.

Just a thought.
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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2008, 03:22:15 pm »

I printed the test print located at http://www.digitaldog.net/tips/index.shtml  and the printer is absolutely giving me a blue cast. the grays that show true on the monitor are coming up blue when printed.

I guess a printer calibration is in order.
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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2008, 04:03:20 pm »

SOLVED!!!!

I feel so dumb. I was about to change all of the printer ink cartridges and noticed that the Photo Cyan cartridge had been replaced by my wife with an Office Depot replacement rather than a Canon cartridge. Changed it back to a Canon original and the issue is fixed.

DO NOT USE OFFICE DEPOT CARTS!!!

Thanks to everyone for their help.

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