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« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2008, 06:48:19 pm »

I had to have white background a little bit modern means not too much like wine ad, the idea is the reminiscence... what the glass of wine remind... integrated in an hype billboard collage with lot of high-end furniture goodies etc...
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« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2008, 09:14:08 pm »

I HATE images on white background, but you have to do it for clients and also stock images on white sell well.

Looking at Quentin's image, this is exactly why I love shooting objects on black instead of on white.  A black surrounding lets you shape the object with light.  It's fun and it's easy.  Simple rim lighting with black background.  Perfect.
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« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2008, 09:20:38 pm »

it can look good... it depemds of what the subject is...
I done that for the same client
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« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2008, 10:56:11 pm »

Here is an empty wine glass...completely off topic.  
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« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2008, 04:14:05 am »

Thanks to T-1000 for his comments.  David is right, those good old high key white backgrounds do seem to be popular though, and I've done a few of those  

I took a slightly different approach for the following stock shot, back-lit by a log fire



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« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2008, 04:18:42 am »

About 60% of everything I do is with white backgrounds or free. It is easy to do and the clients apparently have the largest freedom in using it even white clothing though I find that the most difficult to do (white on white).
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« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2008, 04:25:05 am »

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About 60% of everything I do is with white backgrounds or free. It is easy to do and the clients apparently have the largest freedom in using it even white clothing though I find that the most difficult to do (white on white).
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Absolutely right.

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« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2008, 04:54:39 am »

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About 60% of everything I do is with white backgrounds or free. It is easy to do and the clients apparently have the largest freedom in using it even white clothing though I find that the most difficult to do (white on white).
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For white on white I position lights slightly back and pull the subject slightly forward.  It works okay with opaque surfaces.  If it's a shiny surface - like an iPod, then reflections can be difficult to tame.  Anyway, here's a quickie to illustrate -

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« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2008, 05:46:26 am »

This high-key shot using softbox as a backlight and a single sidelight

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« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2008, 07:04:22 am »

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For white on white I position lights slightly back and pull the subject slightly forward.  It works okay with opaque surfaces.  If it's a shiny surface - like an iPod, then reflections can be difficult to tame.  Anyway, here's a quickie to illustrate -

 The hardest I find lingery and baby clothing
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« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2008, 08:13:54 am »

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This high-key shot using softbox as a backlight and a single sidelight


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could it be time to drink it ???
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« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2008, 11:19:13 am »

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could it be time to drink it ???
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Sadly, it was only Cranberry juice but I think I'll follow your suggestion with something a tad stronger
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« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2008, 05:31:39 pm »

Guys, you need to control your light. I see a LOT of sloppy highlights on the images posted.

To me shooting glass is like drawing, you need to draw your highlights and shadows and erase unwanted reflections. To eliminate reflections you need black, behind you and the camera and to the side and sometimes above. I avoid any front light sources unless I want to include a specific highlight on the surface. You need to use black cutters to add volume and also white cards to add soft reflected highlights.

As you saw the tent is a bad idea. It doesnt allow you to control the distance of the white surface.

The white (milky) acrylic is a great place to start. Create a small ciclorama with it and shoot light through the back and bottom. But in a controlled manner, dont use to much.

Il try and post an image sample soon of a beer bottle I shot last week.

But try and look through the viewfinder while you direct an asstant to move a reflector and or light etc and see the effect on the glass, that way you will see exactly where you need to put your light controls and what works.
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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2008, 10:06:49 pm »

Gidday,

As I was shooting this glass of orange juice for a client today  I remembered the wine glass forum so I grabbed my Nikon D2x and took some shots of the lighting set up.

Cheers

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« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2008, 04:21:22 am »

Here are a few samples:

The heineken shot was actually a stop motion of ice melting on the bottle for a TV spot. (thats why im using kino-flo continuous lighting) These are the shots where I was testing illumination before any post production work. The final framing was even tighter.

I shot the Medalla Beer bottle using a white trasluscent acrylic wiht a light bellow and behind a med softbox top and a med soft box to my left through a silk. I had a few white reflectors to on eside and above camera and a black board to my left.







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« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2008, 04:58:14 am »

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« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2008, 05:03:45 am »

Hi ctz,

Great stop motion. Can I ask was this Bron flash or Metz?

Regards

Simon
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« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2008, 05:14:46 am »

not trying to butt in.. but if we are moving on to wine spills.. how about this?[attachment=5183:attachment]
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« Reply #38 on: February 19, 2008, 05:42:14 am »

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Nice work.  Is there a small dust spot on the Medalla image below the bottle?  I know, I'm being tooo picky, excellent shots, like your setup.

Similar to your Medalla image in style:



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« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2008, 05:47:40 am »

Quite a fun thread.  Lots of great images and ideas.  Simon of HarperPhotos also a  super setup.  I tend to get by with more "ad hoc" arrangements...  

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