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« Reply #80 on: February 10, 2008, 08:29:50 pm »

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Thanks for taking the time to reply, Andy.
I have 10.3.9 - Panther. And if QuickLook does not let me navigate from one image to the next, a little pointless, no?
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It does let you look at and navigate from one to the next (or previous) so it's better than Preview but it doesn't let you delete, convert or (re)save etc. Elements actions/batch etc should help with that...
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« Reply #81 on: February 10, 2008, 09:10:07 pm »

If you want to empty the Trash after hitting Command+Delete, hit Shift+Command+Delete.
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« Reply #82 on: February 11, 2008, 04:29:53 am »

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You can also go here for info:

http://www.apple.com/findouthow/macosx/
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Useful link, Lightstand. Thanks.
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« Reply #83 on: February 12, 2008, 07:00:16 pm »

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Go into Display Control panel, select Arrangement and move the menu (white line) to the screen you wish. Easy.
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I have it on the screen I want, but if you'd read post properly you'd realise that wasn't the problem. As there's only one menu bar and two screens.


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This is more of an observation on "your familiarity with each OS" and not their "merits"  Andrew's post shows you how to customize the setup for dual monitors, that you admit to not being familiar with.

My original posts were trying to help you learn some aspects of the OS with which you are less familiar, as I think Andrew's were.  You'll likely receive a more positive/helpful response once you've gotten over the "It's different from what I'm used to, therefore it's bad/stupid" stage
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Actually I knew how to rearrange monitors and the menu bar, the problem has nothing to do with lack of familiarity of Macs [I've used them for some time in fact, though not with Leopard, which is why I overlooked coverflow], but the issue is simply down to how OSX works. And in this respect it is markedly inferior to Windows, due to the disassociation of menu bar and the programme window.
As for Andrew, he misread posts [not for the first time], got all fanboyish and defensive before talking pure bollox, arguing about stuff of no relevence to the original point I made about ergonomics and looks. And pathetically blamed me for his errors.
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« Reply #84 on: February 12, 2008, 07:03:02 pm »

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I have it on the screen I want, but if you'd read post properly you'd realise that wasn't the problem. As there's only one menu bar and two screens.

So you want two (cloned) menu bars on two screens?
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« Reply #85 on: February 12, 2008, 07:04:56 pm »

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Well said!
Thopugh sadly off the mark

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It appears we have someone that is new to the Mac but with a pretty strong bias based mostly on misunderstandings which may explain the frustration but not unnecessarily the ill tone. Sometimes you can't help people who have developed a strong opinion based mostly on ignorance.
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We appear have someone who is new to English and cannot read posts and behaves like a childish foolish fanboy.
I also have little patience with illiterate fools.
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« Reply #86 on: February 12, 2008, 07:09:56 pm »

Look, you clearly "don't get it" JJJ.

You're NOT running two monitors, you're running one big one, you're simply spanning one desktop using two devices.

So Windows allows you to clone two identical menu's to two displays (cause that's pretty dumb).

Lastly, if you really want a more intelligent fix (not that you'd find it intelligent), you can try DejaMenu which is a lot smarter about handling this than popping a cloned menu on a secondary (actually spanned) display:

http://homepage.mac.com/khsu/DejaMenu/DejaMenu.html
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« Reply #87 on: February 12, 2008, 07:20:07 pm »

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Um, I'm not looking for a digital assets management program. I simply want to see the images quickly and select the keepers. All the other stuff can happen later.
Photomechanic is very fast for looking through images and crossplatform too, so may be ideal for what you want.
I used it a lot before LR appeared. Not free though.


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I mean that when I open any window, I'd like it to fill the screen and not have to drag the corner.[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=173831\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
The green button is not like Windows as sadly it's not maximise, it's make bigger or make smaller. The only workaround is to drag window to size manually when you first open each programme you want full screen.
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« Reply #88 on: February 12, 2008, 07:44:18 pm »

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Look, you clearly "don't get it" JJJ. You're NOT running two monitors, you're running one big one, you're simply spanning one desktop using two devices.
Gosh really, no! </Sarcasm> Funny I'd actually spotted that. Probably as I've done the same for many years now with Windows. And the Windows taskbar can actually span the two monitors [if you want], as opposed to simply having an extra monitor next to the one with the dock/menu.

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So Windows allows you to clone two identical menu's to two displays (cause that's pretty dumb).
That's not what I was refering to. Pay attention for once. Have you even used Windows?
Though like the Mac, Windows can also mirror displays, which is actually very handy at times for doing presentations on a second larger screen.


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Lastly, if you really want a more intelligent fix (not that you'd find it intelligent), you can try DejaMenu which is a lot smarter about handling this than popping a cloned menu on a secondary (actually spanned) display:
http://homepage.mac.com/khsu/DejaMenu/DejaMenu.html
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I don't want a cloned menu. I want the Menu to be at top of every programme window, not the opposite end of a very large desktop, which Deja Menu appears to sort of do. Interesting that you recommend something that's trying to emulate MS behaviour, to make up for OSX's poor ergonomics. I thank you for the reference if not the misplaced abuse. That 'intelligent' fix as you call it, is to specifically fix what I originally pointed out as being broken.
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« Reply #89 on: February 12, 2008, 08:04:06 pm »

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That 'intelligent' fix as you call it, is to specifically fix what I originally pointed out as being broken.
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Right, got it. Any 3rd party utility for the Mac is there because the initial OS is broken, ill designed because Apple spends all its time making pretty, non functional toys. Meanwhile, the slew of such products for Windows isn't to fix likewise broken OS design but more choices for Windows users.

Yes, I run Windows (on a Mac). I do so as infrequently as humanly possible.

I think you're right all along. We Mac users are just confused by all this eye candy, real macho users run Windows (one could suggest you're trying to compensate elsewhere...) Thanks too for describing your needs so elegantly, you're obviously an English professor and one who really knows his Mac's.
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« Reply #90 on: February 12, 2008, 09:12:57 pm »

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Photomechanic is very fast for looking through images and crossplatform too, so may be ideal for what you want.
I used it a lot before LR appeared. Not free though.
 The green button is not like Windows as sadly it's not maximise, it's make bigger or make smaller. The only workaround is to drag window to size manually when you first open each programme you want full screen.
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Thanks, jjj. I knew about Photomechanic. I wish someone with a Mac and Windows would try out IrfanView and see how powerful it is. And then maybe they could appreciate at least something on the dark side  I do not want to buy any software for the Mac right now, until I get comfortable using it. When I get my Sinarback, I will probably buy a better Mac laptop and then I can decide what I want. And perhaps Sinar will support Windows soon, so all this will be unnecessary  

The window maximising is something I find annoying on the Mac. I did the workaround, at least for the programs I use frequently.

Cheers,
Kumar
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« Reply #91 on: February 13, 2008, 01:37:18 am »

Guys (no need for names - just read above a few posts) PLEASE take your childish bickering somewhere else. This was a useful thread til you two polluted it. It still could be helpful to people like me who are trying to direct a good amount of money and want some advice. Both of you have often given freely of your time and experience and I'm sure helped many people ( me included) but this display of bad manners does neither of you credit. Re-read your posts and ask yourself what impression people gain.

I will not waste time responding to any verbal abuse as a result of this post so please don't make me your next "playmate".
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« Reply #92 on: February 13, 2008, 10:19:07 am »

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The green button is not like Windows as sadly it's not maximise, it's make bigger or make smaller. The only workaround is to drag window to size manually when you first open each programme you want full screen.
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here is a free 3rd party utility that will make the green button maximise to fill your momitor's screen.  it is called Stoplight

[a href=\"http://lifehacker.com/software/mac-os-x/download-of-the-day-stoplight-mac-202621.php]http://lifehacker.com/software/mac-os-x/do...-mac-202621.php[/url]

now cross that off your immature "macs cant do this list"
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« Reply #93 on: February 13, 2008, 11:30:32 am »

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Guys (no need for names - just read above a few posts) PLEASE take your childish bickering somewhere else.

Agreed, I'm done.
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« Reply #94 on: February 13, 2008, 06:04:55 pm »

Thanks, ecpny. On the page you linked, there*s a comment that says:
Warning: this program can REALLY REALLY mess up your system. This stopped Quicksilver, Endnote, and a few other programs from opening on my system. Be warned: this program is buggy as all hell.

Do you use this utility yourself? Being new to the Mac, I*m a little apprehensive.

Cheers,
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« Reply #95 on: February 13, 2008, 06:12:38 pm »

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Thanks, ecpny. On the page you linked, there*s a comment that says:
Warning: this program can REALLY REALLY mess up your system. This stopped Quicksilver, Endnote, and a few other programs from opening on my system. Be warned: this program is buggy as all hell.

Do you use this utility yourself? Being new to the Mac, I*m a little apprehensive.

Cheers,
Kumar
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Kumar

Works fine for me, I use Quicksilver and have never had any compatibility issues.
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« Reply #96 on: February 13, 2008, 06:17:30 pm »

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Kumar

Works fine for me, I use Quicksilver and have never had any compatibility issues.
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Thanks, I*ll give it a try today. I*m sure a lot of longtime Mac users might also like that they can tweak things the way they want. Please pass on any other tips you may have.

Cheers,
Kumar
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« Reply #97 on: February 13, 2008, 06:34:09 pm »

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Thanks, I*ll give it a try today. I*m sure a lot of longtime Mac users might also like that they can tweak things the way they want. Please pass on any other tips you may have.
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I used Quicksilver for awhile, no issues. Its quite nice. In the end, I preferred LaunchBar for launching just about anything you can imagine installed on your hard drive. It learns as you use it, so you can type "App" and if the first time you select Apple Script Editor instead of Application Folder, next time it will default to that. QS had a nice clipboard extender but I ended up finding PTHPasteboard more powerful and useful. But I'd certainly encourage you to look into QuickSilver, it has a loyal following:

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« Reply #98 on: February 17, 2008, 05:43:40 pm »

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here is a free 3rd party utility that will make the green button maximise to fill your momitor's screen.  it is called Stoplight

http://lifehacker.com/software/mac-os-x/do...-mac-202621.php
Thanks for that tip. Much appreciated.    

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now cross that off your immature "macs cant do this list"
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Not without a fix for this 'annoyance' by a third party, they cannot.  
And admitting that Mac aren't perfect is mature, it's maintaining they are beyond criticism isn't.
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« Reply #99 on: February 17, 2008, 06:17:45 pm »

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Guys (no need for names - just read above a few posts) PLEASE take your childish bickering somewhere else. This was a useful thread til you two polluted it. It still could be helpful to people like me who are trying to direct a good amount of money and want some advice. Both of you have often given freely of your time and experience and I'm sure helped many people ( me included) but this display of bad manners does neither of you credit. Re-read your posts and ask yourself what impression people gain.
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I simply tried to give a balanced view of both systems [I think both are good and both are flawed, albeit in different ways] and was attacked by someone who repeatedly failed to read my posts correctly and not for the first time either sadly.
Illiteracy/hasty reading was the issue here [not Mac vs PC] and is all too often the real problem with many thread disputes.  I always try to take my time to carefully read and reread a post before responding to try and avoid these misunderstandings. But if the other person doesn't reciprocate.....  I now have little patience with repeated stupidity.

Unlike like some, I'm certrainly not a rabid fanboy of Macs/PCs or Canon/Nikons and will use whichever brand does the best job at the time, regardless of how good they may have been previously. I have no brand loyalty in that respect, it's not like big companies really care about me or you. On that note, this is an interesting read [a href=\"http://www.amazon.com/Corporation-Pathological-Pursuit-Profit-Power/dp/0743247442] The Corporation[/url]. Maybe Apple is the 'The Boston Strangler' and M$ 'The Yorkshire Ripper'!  
And if you anyone still thinks Apple are cuddly and nice [part of their carefully cultivated USP] this is worth a look.
Apple try to control/censor/spin news
And if you think MS is run by staid execs
Steve Ballmer going completely loopy    Quite scary!
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