Topic: EPSON 11880 (Read 6398 times)

Neil Currie · « **on:** December 13, 2007, 11:50:58 am »

I have searched online everywhere and have heard nothing really good or bad about the output of the EPSON 11880. Any comments?

PhillyPhotographer · « **Reply #1 on:** December 13, 2007, 11:55:35 am »

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I have searched online everywhere and have heard nothing really good or bad about the output of the EPSON 11880. Any comments?
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It shouldn't be any different than the 9880, 7880 or the 4880.

John Hollenberg · « **Reply #2 on:** December 13, 2007, 11:57:09 am »

http://www.josephholmes.com/news-epson11880.html

--John

Schewe · « **Reply #3 on:** December 13, 2007, 12:20:19 pm »

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It shouldn't be any different than the 9880, 7880 or the 4880.
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Uh, that would be wrong...while not stated by Epson, the 11880 inkset is actually different than the 4880/7880/9880 inkset and the head has 2X the resolution (and actual 360 nozzles/inch vs 180 nozzles/inch). The 11880 is tipping Epson's hand for the next gen set of printers after the 880 series...

Sven W · « **Reply #4 on:** December 13, 2007, 01:04:41 pm »

It's a Ferrari!!!
I've been printing now for 2 weeks and I can describe very short:
We have 9600, 4000 and 4800 in our studio. Hooked on ImagePrint.

But this is something else.
•Very sturdy construction.
•Very fast printspeed (As Schewe wrote; because of more nozzles).
•Extreme color fidelity. On certain papers, of course.
•We use a "homemade" colorstrip, which we can measure Delta94 values for the profile
used. And I have never got so low values for any printerprofile I've made for a any printer/paper combo. Harman. Prem.Luster but also very good on Enhanced Matte and Canvas.
•No swapping (at last!) between Pk-Mk.
•Large and economical 700ml ink cartridges.

Now I'm waiting for IP to support the dreammachine, but according to John Panozzo at ColorByte,
Epson US is for the first time not willing to help them as they used to.
Maybe it's the same policy as for the "ink-issue" earlier this year?
/Sven

Wayne Fox · « **Reply #5 on:** December 13, 2007, 04:08:09 pm »

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It shouldn't be any different than the 9880, 7880 or the 4880.
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Absolutely not true. Just read about the technology in the new head, and you will understand why it is far different from it's smaller cousins.

I have been running an 11880 for about 5 weeks now. It is an outstanding printer - the best I have ever owned, is much faster than the smaller Epsons, and output, especially compared to my 9800 is visually superior. The gamut is very large (my Epson Prem Lustre profile has a dMax of L3, equal to my ipf6100, and a gamut volume of 822,000).

I have been testing an ipf6100 for a few months, and although I believe it is a great printer with great output, I believe the Epson 11880 is better.

The link to Joseph Holmes site should be very useful for the OP. If there are any specific questions anyone would like answered about this printer I would be happy to offer my opinion.

Wayne Fox · « **Reply #6 on:** December 13, 2007, 04:17:32 pm »

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.while not stated by Epson, the 11880 inkset is actually different than the 4880/7880/9880 inkset
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I have seen this speculated by Joseph Holmes based on the density of profile targets (which is very apparent when making profiles). My best guess was the driver can lay down more ink because the size and especially the consistency of the placement of the drops allows it.

I haven't seen this confirmed by Epson. Understanding your relationship with Epson and knowing you certainly have an inside source, you are are saying this has been confirmed to you directly from Epson?

Not that it matters ... just curious if it is "official", and wondering why that wouldn't be part of the technical specs - seems like a selling point.

Schewe · « **Reply #7 on:** December 13, 2007, 04:24:18 pm »

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I haven't seen this confirmed by Epson. Understanding your relationship with Epson and knowing you certainly have an inside source, you are are saying this has been confirmed to you directly from Epson?
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Reformulated resin to reduce gloss differential (even more than the K3 inks) and a further increase of pigment density (beyond the K3 inkset). The reformulated resin and new head design also decreases the likelihood of clogging (that head change may also be in the smaller printers–I can't remember).

Epson didn't want to over-promote the reformulated K3 with Vivid Magenta inkset for the 11880 just yet...

PhillyPhotographer · « **Reply #8 on:** December 13, 2007, 04:29:15 pm »

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Reformulated resin to reduce gloss differential (even more than the K3 inks) and a further increase of pigment density (beyond the K3 inkset). The reformulated resin and new head design also decreases the likelihood of clogging (that head change may also be in the smaller printers–I can't remember).

Epson didn't want to over-promote the reformulated K3 with Vivid Magenta inkset for the 11880 just yet...
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I guess I was wrong. Sorry

John Hollenberg · « **Reply #9 on:** December 13, 2007, 04:40:41 pm »

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I have been testing an ipf6100 for a few months, and although I believe it is a great printer with great output, I believe the Epson 11880 is better.

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The key issue for us mere mortals (financially speaking) is how the iPF6100 compares to the Epson 7880. Since the 7880 still needs the PK/MK ink swap and has apparently a slightly different inkset than the 11880 the answer might be different. Have you seen any images printed on both 11880 and 7880, and if so is there a visible difference?

--John

Wayne Fox · « **Reply #10 on:** December 13, 2007, 04:56:18 pm »

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Reformulated resin to reduce gloss differential (even more than the K3 inks) and a further increase of pigment density (beyond the K3 inkset). The reformulated resin and new head design also decreases the likelihood of clogging (that head change may also be in the smaller printers–I can't remember).

Epson didn't want to over-promote the reformulated K3 with Vivid Magenta inkset for the 11880 just yet...
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Thanks. Good information.

michael · « **Reply #11 on:** December 13, 2007, 06:08:27 pm »

I too have been working with the 11880 for a couple of months. I've been meaning to write a brief hands-on review, but somehow time has gotten away from me.

All I can say is that if you need a 60" production printer and have a spare $15,000, this is the printer to buy.

This technology, heads and ink, will show up in a new line of Epson printers next fall. In the meantime, it's in a class of its own.

Michael

UPDATE

Just to avoid any inappropriate assumptions I'd like to clarify that the sentence above about new printers from Epson in the fall of '08 is simply educated speculation on my part. Clearly, the head technology that's in the 11880 will likely migrate down to less expensive models. Why wouldn't it?

Also, 2008 is a Photokina year, and so new printers from Epson as well as other printer makers are more likely to appear then than at other times, especially since Epson just updated their Pro printer line a few months ago.

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