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Frank Doorhof

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« Reply #40 on: December 04, 2007, 02:44:02 am »

@snook,
As mentioned before this is what is told to me.
I don't have the technical background to explain it in depth.

The way it was explained to me is that if you use more capacitors in a head the speed will grow with output.

I have tested it with Elinchrom and Jinbei (cheap brand) and on BOTH the theory was correct.

According to the guy I spoke from Elinchrom the older strobes used a different method, but the modern versions would use the method with higher power/faster speeds.

Who am I to dissagree

I don't want to go into lengthy discussions, I take photos and they work the way I make them, I was just giving a tip to the one asking the question from MY experience.
If yours is different you can give yours, that's the way the forum works.
Don't ask me to explain something I already mentioned I cannot.
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« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2007, 03:05:45 am »

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Frank would you care to share what MOST OTHER flashes do it that way also you are talking about??
I cannot think of any? I agree with you that Elinchrom is that way and I always new they had the Shortest Flash Duration in their Medium Class Mono Blocks But,
MOST modern Flashes is exaggerated quite a bit.
Actually Elinchrom is the ONLY one I now know that does this.
Broncolor I cannot comment either. But like I said before.
MY MODERN Flashes:
Profoto
Hensel
Bowens
Do JUST the opposite. Shorter Duration at Lower Settings.
Good Luck...
Snook
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hi snook I'm afraid I have to back up Frank's observations...seems to be the case with certain elinchroms for some reason.

if anyone wants some stop motion action info by people who actually specialise in it check out
[a href=\"http://biwainc.blogspot.com/]http://biwainc.blogspot.com/[/url]
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« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2007, 07:52:08 am »

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hi snook I'm afraid I have to back up Frank's observations...seems to be the case with certain elinchroms for some reason.

if anyone wants some stop motion action info by people who actually specialise in it check out
http://biwainc.blogspot.com/
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Jing...
I Know Elinchroms are that way... I agreed 100%. What I did not agreed an others backed me up is that they are one of the only one that are that way!!!.
MOST other are just the opposite , you need to put them on minimum power to get the shortest Flash duration.
That is why at one time I was looking into Elinchroms but like I said B&H did not have them in 240V and I am not going to import them from Europe as it is way to expensive that way.
I was just trying to tell Frank that his statement about most packs he knows are like the Elinchroms, which is not exactly right.
Believe me I have been shooting people jumping inside and outside of the studio for MANY years and know what it takes to freeze them..  
Snook
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« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2007, 09:43:28 am »

Freezing them is easy, keeping them warm outside that's a different story
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« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2007, 11:06:40 am »

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Jing...
I Know Elinchroms are that way... I agreed 100%. What I did not agreed an others backed me up is that they are one of the only one that are that way!!!.
MOST other are just the opposite , you need to put them on minimum power to get the shortest Flash duration.
That is why at one time I was looking into Elinchroms but like I said B&H did not have them in 240V and I am not going to import them from Europe as it is way to expensive that way.
I was just trying to tell Frank that his statement about most packs he knows are like the Elinchroms, which is not exactly right.
Believe me I have been shooting people jumping inside and outside of the studio for MANY years and know what it takes to freeze them..  
Snook
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ah ok yes most packs get a shorter flash duration as they're powered down...don't be so harsh on Frank he's just unaware. =D
that's why we're here to share on the forum...

I used to use 240V elinchroms in Asia. you may want to check Hong Kong's dealers, I believe they have reasonable prices. Maybe you can take a trip and then pack it in your luggage haha

the Style S series is still my favourite...being able to adjust the flash power by a little tab you can push up and down....god what a genius design
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